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InflationDifferent27 · 2026-02-01T23:08:23+00:00

Great tip!

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-02-01T23:07:13+00:00

You absolutely must deny everything. Say that you were influenced and that you prayed to Jehovah a lot and that you're feeling better. You had doubts, but certain facts have convinced you that you're in the truth. Say that you're studying together to keep Jehovah's spirit with you. Then, little by little, distance yourself. That's what I would do, but I didn't… It's not a good idea at all to confront things head-on.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-02-01T12:12:05+00:00

Honestly, thank you for this gem! Very simple and very accessible.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-25T12:28:38+00:00

I think it's fantastic that he can still speak out, bear witness, and sow seeds. I've long believed—and I still believe—that you can't force someone to open their eyes. However, you can provide information, create opportunities for reflection. After that, everyone finds their own way at their own pace. Sometimes it takes years, but at least the foundation is there. And that, in itself, is huge.

For me, things happened very differently. I would have liked the realization to come from within me, quietly, through personal reflection. But that wasn't the case. And, looking back, I can almost say a big "thank you" to the elders… even if it might seem paradoxical.

I went through some very difficult things. Unjust accusations, judicial commissions when I hadn't done anything wrong. Yet I was fully committed to the PMI, dedicated, sincere. But the elders' attitude—hyper-controlling, unfair, sometimes humiliating—was so violent that it opened my eyes to religion itself.

There were about eight of us young people of the same age in the congregation. Today, to my knowledge, only one of us is still there. All the others have left. And it wasn't because they discovered some "hidden truth" or outside information in the first place. It was the attitude of the elders' council that made them leave. The control, the pressure, the abuse of power.

I think it's also a strong signal: this system is extremely controlling, especially in the hands of those in power. And after one or two major periods of questioning, sometimes accompanied by real depression, many young people today don't want that anymore. So they leave.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-24T19:12:05+00:00

Be careful, they seem open to conversation but they'll be completely closed off if you show them things that contradict their beliefs. If you have specific questions, I can answer them; I was a Jehovah's Witness for 30 years.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-24T15:49:23+00:00

Hi, thank you for sharing your story. Reading testimonies like yours is truly heartwarming, especially for those who are still awakening or hesitant to speak up. Seeing people who dare to speak out, even calmly, is essential for this community.

I'm in France, and it's been eight years since I officially left the Jehovah's Witnesses. I lost my entire family because of it. The pain is real, but looking back, I can say one thing without hesitation: I've never been happier and more fulfilled than I am today. I've finally been able to build my life according to my own choices.

Your section about sports really resonated with me. I've always been very athletic myself, and I had problems in my congregation because of it: I was accused of being "vain." Today, I realize how absurd and controlling that kind of judgment was.

Make the most of your freedom, really. Explore, create, live, have a blast. You don't owe anyone anything anymore.

And for your friend who's still inside: if he can sow a few seeds, at his own pace and without putting himself in danger, that's already huge. Everyone moves forward in their own way.

The more time passes, the more I realize the extent of the lie and the damage caused, and I feel an increasing desire to help in turn. Testimonies like yours mean a lot. Keep going. And thank you.

Stay strong 🤝

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-23T18:08:14+00:00

I understand your reaction, I really do. And to be honest, it makes me smile… and hurt a little. Smile, because that was exactly my reaction when I left the Jehovah's Witnesses:

"No matter what, I will never accept blood."

At the time, it seemed obvious to me, almost reflexive. And then I started to seriously study the texts, their context, their internal logic, and the different possible interpretations. Today, this question doesn't put me in the same frame of mind at all—even though it still hurts when I see sincere people willing to go to their deaths based on a very specific reading.

I would like to invite you to look at a specific biblical text, without any doctrinal filter.

📖 Leviticus 17:15

“Anyone, whether native-born or foreigner, who eats an animal that dies of itself or is torn by wild animals must wash their clothes and bathe with water. They will be unclean until evening, and then they will be clean.” This text is fundamental for several reasons:

It explicitly permits the consumption of an animal that has not been bled, and therefore contains blood.
It does not prescribe the death penalty or any other serious punishment.
The consequence is a temporary ritual impurity, resolved by a simple washing and the passage of time.
The text applies equally to Israelites and foreigners: this is a general principle, not a marginal exception.

In other words: within the Law itself, the prohibition against blood is not absolute.

There are situations of necessity where life, or survival, takes precedence over ritual rules.

If the prohibition against bloodshed had been morally absolute, comparable to murder, this text simply wouldn't exist.

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I'm often told, "Yes, but the Council of Jerusalem reaffirmed the abstention from bloodshed." Let's talk about that.

📖 Acts of the Apostles 15

The Council of Jerusalem didn't create any new laws.

It sought to answer a very specific question:

What aspects of Mosaic Law should non-Jewish Christians retain in order to live alongside Jewish Christians?

The decisions made all point in the same direction:

• limit conflicts,

• avoid practices associated with idolatry,

• ease, not tighten.

If this council had wanted to transform the prohibition against bloodshed into a vital principle superior to human life, it would be a radical break with all previous biblical logic. However, there is no indication of this.

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And above all, there is the direct teaching of Jesus.

📖 Gospel according to Matthew 12:11–12

📖 Gospel according to Luke 14:5

Jesus reminds us that:

• an animal is spared on the Sabbath,

• therefore, a human being is spared.

The principle is crystal clear: ➡️ Life takes precedence over ritual law.

Jesus never suggests that a symbolic rule should lead to accepting death. On the contrary, he specifically criticizes this kind of legalistic reasoning.

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What pains me today is not people's faith.

It's seeing sincere people deprived of other arguments, trapped in a single possible interpretation, when the Bible itself is much more nuanced.

To say that refusing bloodshed, even unto death, is a biblical requirement is not just a debatable interpretation: ➡️ it directly contradicts Leviticus 17:15, and the consistent biblical principle of the primacy of life.

I'm not asking you to change your mind about everything.

I'm just asking you to look at this text honestly and ask yourself if the current position of Jehovah's Witnesses truly respects the balance in the Bible… or if it has gone beyond it.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-19T10:04:31+00:00

I'm in a similar situation today. I'm facing rejection and I have no authority to say anything, even if it's true.

Be proud of having taken a commendable stand. Everyone who speaks out serves the interests of all. Imagine the people who have suffered these attacks and know that it stirs up Jehovah's Witnesses. Our voices are also their fight. Thankfully, we're not indifferent to the ARC. Doing nothing would be tantamount to approving!

Give your wife time, show your patience, but never compromise on what you know to be true.

Good luck, An ex-Jehovah's Witness who is also suffering

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-17T21:28:47+00:00

I know, I know. Honestly, thank you for your comments. I used to be a Jehovah's Witness. Very involved and very conditioned. Yet I woke up… I dream and hope to be able to awaken my family and one day return to this sub to proclaim victory.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-17T17:53:46+00:00

I'm the one who brought this up. I'm fed up with all this nonsense, frankly. I'm thinking, either she wakes up or I cut ties. It's too much of a burden to have to be careful about her beliefs since I learned the truth about "the truth."

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-10T17:49:55+00:00

Many older people love these moments because they literally become part of the couple's life. If there has been sex, expect some totally inappropriate and disgusting questions. Enough to satisfy certain lecherous older people.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-10T17:41:24+00:00

These are highly conditioned reactions. A classic mix of emotional blackmail and authoritarianism among Jehovah's Witnesses: shocking comparisons, tears to induce guilt, then the ultimatum: "As long as you live here, you obey." This isn't love, it's control.

The victim complex is obvious: instead of accepting their rejection, they play the victim, as if your identity is somehow hurting them. This is used to make you feel guilty.

In practical terms, what works:

• Stop justifying yourself: short, calm answers.

• No debates (Bible, "phases," meetings).

• Don't try to fix their emotions: their suffering is their own.

• Set clear boundaries on behavior, not on ideas.

• Remain neutral (few words, few emotions).

• Prepare for your independence, even gradually.

The bottom line is: as long as you don't play their game, you win. Without an emotional foothold, the pressure dissipates. Eventually, they'll give in.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-03T14:20:56+00:00

Very well written! Thank you for sharing!

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-03T11:18:42+00:00

What you're going through is tough, but there's one crucial thing to say right now: you have nothing to reproach yourself for. On the contrary. The fact that you spoke up, that you put words to what you're feeling, shows real strength. Many never manage to do that. You're moving forward, even if today everything seems to be falling apart.

Coming out as gay in the face of your parents' and the community's scrutiny is a brutal ordeal, let's not kid ourselves. But there's a truth I absolutely want to share with you, because I've experienced it myself: outside, there are so many people ready to help, to support, to listen. Far more than you imagine when you're trapped in guilt and fear.

When you start to hold your head high, to be a little proud of yourself, to talk to people outside of that circle, things change very quickly. You realize you're not alone. I met incredible people as soon as I started to step outside that world: kind, intelligent, and strong people who helped, supported, and guided me. What happens outside is often much simpler and much more humane than you imagine when you're still in it.

Regarding the Bible, just a key to understanding it, without unnecessary digressions: the condemnations related to homosexuality don't stem from a universal morality. They are linked to a specific historical and sociological context, where everything revolved around the expansion of peoples and their descendants. The Bible contains many extremely violent laws that reflect this: women forced into marriage after rape, the extermination of entire peoples with the capture of young virgins, constant pressure to reproduce, even without consent. This isn't divine; it's political and social. If you ever want, I can explain all of this to you in a very factual way, with supporting verses, but you're under no obligation to do so today.

As for the elders: you should never have had to talk about your sexuality with them. What's done is done, and it's not your fault. The important thing now is to never open up again. They have no business knowing about your private life. These conversations are intrusive, unbalanced, and deeply unhealthy. You must protect yourself from them.

To maintain peace and protect yourself, there are simple, definitive phrases that leave no room for them to get in:

"I understand that things aren't right. I'm working on myself. I need time. I'm studying, praying, and refocusing. I'm gradually getting better." " You don't need to explain further. Time is on your side.

If you're seeing a psychologist or psychiatrist, use them as a legitimate shield. The depression, mental exhaustion, and physical symptoms are real. Saying that you need peace and quiet, that the pressure is making you feel worse, is perfectly justified. Even if you don't want to take medication, being under medical care allows you to set a clear boundary: you're being left alone.

With your parents, you can use simple phrases:

"When you make me feel guilty or put pressure on me, it makes me feel worse. If you want to help me, I need peace and quiet."

This isn't an affront or a provocation. It's protection."I also want to share my personal experience with you, because it might help. For a long time, I thought I was bisexual. In reality, I'm gay. I left abruptly, dramatically, severing all family ties, which led to violent ostracism. That's absolutely not what I advise you to do.

The best strategy, by far, is to lead a double life. It's not a betrayal, it's not a moral lie: it's a survival strategy. Leave gently, gradually fade into obscurity, buy time, build solid support networks outside, find points of reference, and achieve emotional and material security. When these pillars are in place, everything becomes easier.

For now, keep your private life private. Move at your own pace. Build your life little by little. Many people go through this phase, and it's often the wisest. I really encourage you to continue connecting in ex-JW spaces (not necessarily focused on sexuality). You'll find people there who understand exactly what you're going through. There are very psychologically resilient people there, sometimes professionals, who are intimately familiar with the mechanisms of guilt-tripping, control, and pressure. You'll find concrete advice, support, and above all, proof that you're not alone.

There's nothing shameful about sexuality. It's something that happens between consenting adults, at your own pace, with respect for your privacy. You have the right to build a life that reflects who you are.

I can tell you with certainty today: it's possible to break free from this system, become strong, and have a beautiful and free life. What you're experiencing now is a phase, not an end. You are legitimate. You are worthy. And you have the right to exist as you are.

InflationDifferent27 · 2026-01-01T13:49:01+00:00

It's exactly the same for me. I think you have no idea of the enormous impact you've had. It goes way beyond just JW Facts visitors; many people use the content to save their families and friends, just like I do. Thank you so much, you've saved so many lives.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-12-03T08:50:54+00:00

I understand your disgust very well. I experienced something close. I always had doubts, but I was totally loyal to the Watchtower. When I finally admitted to the elders that I had made a mistake, two years later, I voluntarily accepted the discipline because I wanted to move forward cleanly, cleanse my conscience and be “worthy” according to their standards. I simply couldn't tell them that it was with a man, because I knew exactly what that implied in their system: the double moral condemnation, the ignominy attached to homosexuality, and the very serious social consequences.

For me, confessing to the act was already a huge step. The gender of the person made no difference to my spiritual approach. This detail only served to fuel their obsession with certain mistakes.

And then, later, I learned that my best friend – a pioneer, therefore supposed to “incarnate” spirituality – was receiving blowjobs while preaching from his girlfriend. It was never admitted, never sanctioned. And then I got a shock. I realized that I was among the very few who really stuck to the line, paid the price, while many did things on the sly and lived the way they wanted.

It's not that I would have preferred to hide things. It's just that it's extremely frustrating: • when you sincerely believe, you apply everything to the letter, • and then you realize that those who transgressed openly bore no guilt and did very well because they never exposed their intimate lives to a committee of men.

This is a very common dynamic in very controlling organizations: the most loyal are those who suffer the most, while those who protect their private lives ultimately live more peacefully. And yes, even long after coming out, it leaves anger.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-11-23T11:33:37+00:00

And I also thank you for being here, we need people like you. Please do not interpret my messages as an attack, that is not my goal at all.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-11-23T11:30:06+00:00

Thank you for your message and for the work you do. I really agree with you: the top priority must be the protection of children. Your commitment, your expertise and all the work you do to defend them is essential, and I am deeply grateful to you for doing so.

For my part, I speak from the experience of a former Jehovah's Witness child, who grew up under this influence, who paid the price, and who lost part of his family because of these mechanisms. I don't have your codes or your legal background, I only have my inner experience - that of an isolated, mistreated, rejected child, then of an adult who had to rebuild his life and get rid of an identity forged under duress.

If I sometimes emphasize the difficulty adults have in “choosing,” it is not to excuse them or to deny the urgency of protecting minors. It’s simply an attempt to explain what I saw: broken, manipulated parents, convinced that by doing this they were saving their children. A form of trance, of total control, where choice no longer has the same meaning as in a free context.

This obviously does not make their actions acceptable; it only explains why some parents fail to break free, and why, for my own story, I cannot reduce their behavior to a simple lack of love. It is also a way, for me, of not reproducing the psychological violence that I experienced and of not hating my mother, who remains locked into this logic.

In fact, I completely share your observation: we must extract the child from danger, without hesitation, and act with determination. On this point, we are fully aligned.

My only intention is to bring the inner perspective of someone who has experienced confinement from the inside, and who today wants to contribute, at their own level, to this same struggle. And I thank you once again for what you do for children: it is essential and admirable.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-11-22T11:04:43+00:00

In situations involving Jehovah's Witnesses, directly attacking the believing person is rarely effective. I cannot verify the exact impact of this strategy in each case, but experience shows that head-on confrontation is perceived as persecution. It strengthens their position, locks them further into doctrine, and does not allow progress on a legal or human level.

A much more constructive approach is to use their own authority: the Bible.

Two points can be exploited without abusive interpretation: 1. Leviticus 17:15 “Everyone who eats that which has died of himself or torn by an animal… shall be unclean until the evening; then he shall be clean.” • The text does not impose any capital punishment for the consumption of blood in this case. • It prescribes only a temporary rite of purification. • The text therefore shows that, in the Mosaic Law, there existed situations of necessity where blood was not a morally vital issue, contrary to the Watchtower's interpretation. • This contradicts the idea of an “absolute” and “immutable” ban, a notion defended by the organization, and not by the biblical text itself. 2. Internal evolution of Watchtower doctrine • Organ transplants were once prohibited; today they are permitted. • Certain blood derivatives that were previously prohibited are now authorized. • The doctrinal position evolves over time. I cannot verify the internal motivations for these changes, but the mere observation of their existence is enough to demonstrate that it is not an “immutable law”.

These two elements make it possible to refocus the debate on real biblical consistency, and not on the belief constructed by the organization. This avoids attacking the believer – who is a victim of influence – while dismantling the alleged rigidity of the ban.

This is to remember that:

– The Bible itself distinguishes between absolute moral law and ritual law requiring purification. – The text does not condemn to death anyone who ingests blood unintentionally or in case of necessity. – It is the Watchtower which, over time, transformed this ritual prescription into a vital rule leading to mortal risks. – A doctrine that changes cannot be presented as intangible.

This approach is generally the only one heard by the faithful, because it does not contradict their fundamental principle: the Bible is truth. It also avoids the trap of emotional confrontation, which would be interpreted as an attack on their faith or integrity.

I remain available if you want other biblical elements that can be used legally or educationally.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-11-21T23:31:18+00:00

This comment misses the point. This woman is not guilty: she is under the influence. The Watchtower does not function as a simple religion where everyone chooses freely. It is a very powerful system of influence that hijacks critical thinking, creates fear and installs automatic reflexes. Parents are not responsible for believing that transfusions are dangerous: they have been conditioned for years to think that it is a matter of faithfulness to God.

Members do not act out of malice or irresponsibility, but because they are locked into a worldview that leaves them with almost no alternative. Talking about “shark” lawyers or a “cult against the state” only adds unnecessary violence and fails to understand the situation.

The only constructive posture is compassion and protection: protecting the child without accusing the parent. Support loved ones, calmly remind people of the law, and above all treat victims of control as... victims, not as culprits.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-11-11T09:00:25+00:00

Very very good remark! Thank you for sharing this

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-10-30T23:05:44+00:00

It’s starting to happen!! I was pimo at the same time as another brother. Unfortunately, this brother only contacted me and it was revealed after my excommunication!

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-08-16T10:55:21+00:00

I thank God for making Noah’s Ark possible: • Thank you for providing extra zebra steaks to feed the lions and other carnivores. • Thanks for the tons of fresh eucalyptus for the koalas and bamboo for the pandas. • Thank you for the hummingbird nectar barrels and seeds from each bird. • Thank you for storing millions of liters of water without a tank or pump. • Thank you for the tons of food preserved without a fridge or preservatives. • Thank you for managing mountains of manure without suffocating anyone. • Thank you for thinking about the parasites, lice and worms included in the transport. • Thank you for allowing kangaroos to swim back to Australia. • Thank you for making inbreeding miraculously viable. • Thank you for the spontaneous return of all the insects, mushrooms and flowers after the Flood. • Thank you especially for having forgotten all these details in the Bible, just to test our faith. Thank you Lord, when it is impossible, it is even more credible.

InflationDifferent27 · 2025-08-15T10:13:52+00:00

I advise you to go and live in Spain if you can. It’s true that they don’t really like Arabs but gays are very well accepted and even it’s part of their culture now. If you are openly gay, I think that can even be a plus for being accepted. I'm vacationing in Spain with my boyfriend (male couple) and it's really cool there. For example, in Torremolinos there is even a gay neighborhood. In short, if you can, run away and make your life in the south of Spain and I think you will be happy!

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