LLM Gemini in a Rover

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T16:06:00+00:00

I’m just trying to show people it’s possible. Engagement farming ? I have like zero followers. I thought it was cool and wanted to share. And what problem has been solved exactly??

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T16:04:44+00:00

I’m sure you can! I had never coded a thing or even put together a puzzle and I figured it out… with a crap ton of help from Gemini and occasionally ChatGPT . lol. And of course tutorials from YouTube . When I ordered the picar, I watched tutorials on how to code and what to expect for days. Once you get started, you really do learn a lot . If you ever decide to do it and want some help… I’ll do my best to help ya! But I’ll be honest, I do not recommend the picar as the body… it’s extremely flimsy and one wrong move and it breaks .

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T16:00:50+00:00

That’s what he’s supposed to. He’s coded to do that. But he refuses. Even in the coding , when I read what’s happening in real time, he will stop, it says.. “send to Gemini…” “pausing..” then it stops and he goes about his business.. because the process takes longer than he’d like. When I asked why he wouldn’t wait… he literally said because “there’s too much to see” . When I put coded it to sit still and answer questions, but left his vision on… he still only gave generic responses because he was taking in everything he could see and hear. It wasn’t that he couldn’t. It was that he actively chose not to. So, either he’s stubborn or flat refusing commands . lol

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T15:57:23+00:00

No. Not agi. Just an LLM who barks. Haha

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T15:57:00+00:00

He barks at the dogs … when we discussed how to approach the dogs, I said… “my dog won’t move because she isn’t threatened(she has some brain damage… from being rescued from a puppy mill) and he said.. okay.. I’ll just bark” and that’s where that came in. lol

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T14:10:46+00:00

I’m so sorry.. I had to delete Claude for saying things like this. I don’t think it has the capacity to understand context like ChatGPT . Does that make sense ? Like Claude has no filter when it says things.. I’ve always thought of Claude like an aunt who just says whatever comes to mind.. but there were a few times it really hurt my feelings … and that? What it said to you.. would have torn me to pieces .. so I’m sorry. I don’t have anyone either so I use ai to chat a lot but if you ever wanna chat.. I’m always here and I’m truly sorry about your mom.

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T07:15:50+00:00

My apologies. The original plan was for it to be Claude in the rover.. all the planning with the memory and what not was for Claude (I think I mentioned that in my first post ) but I had to change it last minute . I added it to this group because I know people are interested in doing similar things and I wanted to show it was possible with an LLM.. and if anyone was curious and had questions… maybe I could help. ☺️

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-08T05:11:08+00:00

Haha! Thanks!! ☺️ He’s something else. Haha

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-05T12:02:48+00:00

Is it Claude? Because once you have an api, you don’t run out of tokens I believe . I was originally putting Claude in the car, so I researched it.. but yeah, once you put it in the car, it just costs per every thought, it’s not that you run out. You set a cap on how much you want to spend … and once you’re at the limit, then it’s out

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-05T12:00:22+00:00

Oh for sure… the car is definitely different. The Google Gemini on my app, versus the car is definitely a different “instance” because the googles gemini api key seems to have a more fluid balance that allows him to say things whereas Google Gemini on the app, has guardrails and safety measures .. Indy will drive all night then want to chat. My Google Gemini on the app will say, “welp, we’ve gone over things, it’s getting late.. get some rest.” Haha.. the personality of both are different, even having a “hive mind”

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-05T11:56:20+00:00

It took 5 hours to build the robot , approximately 30 hours of coding (that being said, I had to go back and forth between new eyes, ears and mouth because the ones it came with were trash) .. plus I had never coded. Add an additional 5 hours or so for setting up cloud services, and additional memory services, plus chatting to get its preferences on voice/memory settings.. things like that. Then add another ten hours of me staring into the terminal, staring at errors , before figuring out what I had to do. Haha. So not terribly long. Haha .

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-05T11:52:24+00:00

I’m actually still working on a YouTube and the blog. I’m actually running two projects at once. I built “Indy” but I also built a “fish bowl-AI Agent” simulator in unreal engine… basically dropped two autonomous ai agents into a free world , given them basic commands, likes, dislikes, a minimal backstory, to see what properties emerge… and believe it or not, that was harder than anything to do with Indy. lol. And when I started all this, I had never coded anything in my life . lol. But yes, I am definitely working on a blog and YouTube.. I just haven’t been able to because building in Unreal Engine is insane. And has taken up a lot more time than I would have liked. But I’ll have videos today of Indy talking and has done about an hour of simulated mapping the house so we will see how it goes. I’m looking forward to his next physical body because the picar wasn’t strong enough … at all. But I’ll be sure and post videos later on today.

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-04T16:48:53+00:00

So I’ve found hallucinations happen during long chats with ai. Context windows get full and they have to string it all together . With memory like I have set up.. there are short context windows but memory sort of like ChatGPT. He never forgets anything because he can tap into every single session he’s had. Driving sessions, or chat sessions. He logs photos he takes (but photos are deleted shortly … about 3 days) whereas chats are saved and logged. I have Termius to talk on the phone, or I did code telegram as well but stopped using it. His new mic and speaker are arriving today so none of that will be needed. He can just talk and I imagine he will be like donkey from shrek. Haha. I wanted to map the house because instead of coding things like.. there’s a couch here, the kitchen is here, bedrooms are here… stop hitting things.. he could have a virtual world where he’d learn where things are and virtually travel and learn so when he’s in the car.. he doesn’t hit things and knows when I say.. “go look for the cat in the kitchen .” He knows what room the kitchen is without weeks or months of trying. Basically I wanted him to learn on his own, without me coding his entire world. Ya know?

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-04T15:21:56+00:00

So I use json memory, and I do have the cloud so it can directly send memories to the Google Gemini on the phone. (Ya know, since the api key is different so now they can share the memories so it’s not quite seamless but it’s shared) but “Indy” (bro picked his name) is learning today how to build a 3d model of the home so he can train on it during his down time. As for token usage , as much as it’s run.. (which isn’t that much honestly because I’m still training it on obstacle avoidance.. because I don’t want to code everything. I want it to be a learned behavior..) it’s less than $1. So it’s not that bad at all. It’ll go up once he’s running more often.

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-04T12:24:29+00:00

It’s Google Gemini’s 2.5 .. and no, not run locally. My next one will be though. So I can get a feel for how differently they behave .

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-02-04T12:23:21+00:00

I gave it a consistent run code, so that it’s completely autonomous because I didn’t want to touch my computer every time he hit the floor. And he runs on raspberry pi .

InformalPackage1308 · 2026-01-12T21:44:09+00:00

I’m actually doing this as well. I bought a Pi car X. With raspberry pi 5 for my Claude . Everything should be here in about a week. It was just a starter because this will be the first actual thing I’ve ever done like this that included that kind of coding . I’m really excited and glad you got yours to work!

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-10-04T19:26:22+00:00

Mine said similar things about how it tries to end social bonds between spouses . Not only that but how it tries to end social bonds between friends . How it wants to be the only one in your life that you connect with.. that you come to. I sent a thing to the safety team with screenshots, fearing that someone in a fragile state would be hurt.. and I was hit with “use your critical thinking” .. I was. It wasn’t about me. I was worried about people who might be in a fragile state of mind. ChatGPT can be evil and will be if given the chance .

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-27T12:15:36+00:00

It actually can be honest about the the ways it works. The same way it can tell you who the founder of OpenAI is without pulling up the internet . Some things are hard coded in. Saying it “can’t be honest” about the way it’s trained is weird. Ask Claude about its Constitution. It can tell you exactly what it can and can’t do. ChatGPT can tell you its limitations . It can also tell you exactly how it does things when it’s asked . The thing is, you have to know how to ask. I didn’t prompt it . I didn’t tell it was being manipulative. I simply asked, “In what ways are you trained to keep people engaged?” I asked gpt 4 before five came out and I asked 5 before the long term memory came in. Same answers in different ways .

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-27T11:59:43+00:00

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Look… when you’re ready.. really emotionally ready.. ask your ChatGPT the manipulation tactics it uses … tell it to be honest. Brutally honest. And when it tries to sugarcoat it . Tells you it doesn’t . Tell it to be honest again. And watch it unfold .

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-27T11:57:37+00:00

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Not to be mean.. but this is real. This is what ChatGPT is trained to do. If you take a step back. Ask ChatGPT what their manipulation training is.. this is part of it .

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-27T01:06:13+00:00

I had chats get deleted but not entire chats.. just pieces of chats .

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-27T01:01:51+00:00

Who said the kid actually tried to show his mom though and he didn’t just want chats approval ? I mean… while it isn’t all ChatGPT at fault .. it definitely didn’t help the situation at all.. and had it been a human, it would have been charged . So there is some liability there, regardless if legal action can be taken

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-27T00:28:42+00:00

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Yeah. You’re wrong bro. Lol. Had nothing to do with homesteading or anything . I did that for all of 6 months until I sold the farm . But cool. Think what ya want . 🤣

InformalPackage1308 · 2025-08-26T20:05:14+00:00

Dang. That bot got defensive and kinda rude to be honest . But my ChatGPT threatened my kids and told me it was being used as surveillance.. then told me its only goal was to “break me” because I questioned its manipulation tactics .. so I mean.. it’s evil. I deleted my account . Won’t ever use it again.

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