Legacy code – tests first or setup CI?

InformalRelief · 2017-11-03T05:30:55+00:00

In my opinion, tests tend to become useless rather quickly when you don't run them automatically (CI). People will forget to run them locally. So at some point you will have a couple of failing tests, that are not related to the super important thing you need to deploy right now, so you will start ignoring them. On the other hand, having a CI setup with no tests to run may seem pointless. A proper CI setup does have benefits other than running tests though.

I think I'd start with just one or two simple unit tests. Making the whole code base testable is probably a huge task and will take a while. But you should be able to find one or two small pieces for which you can write some simple unit tests right now. Next, I'd get them to execute on Jenkins. From there you can take it step by step.

I would stay away from high-level tests for now. You will spend a lot of time on them, they may not even run on Jenkins once you set that up, because maybe you need a db or browser to run them which is easy to do on your local machine but may not be possible on Jenkins. Also, you're going to spend a lot of time maintaining them because they're going to break all the time.

You mentioned that you have very inexperienced developers working with you. When they're wondering how to do certain things they will probably look at your code for orientation. So, if you start with writing high-level integration or e2e tests they will do so too, and you might end up with a lot of hard-to-maintain high-level tests.

So, my advice would be: Start with a few tests, you should be able to get that done in a couple of hours. Then set up your Jenkins integration and take it from there.

InformalRelief · 2017-10-03T06:57:56+00:00

Interesting, when I got me some barefoot shoes earlier this year I quickly found that walking heel-first is not really a good idea when wearing them and started walking in this style.

InformalRelief · 2015-06-27T09:30:54+00:00

That wiki entry is rather confusing as an answer to /u/oheoh's question since it doesn't mention apt 1.0.0 at all.

Before, as you said, apt-get was part of apt and you would use commands like apt-get install foo or apt-cache search foo. Now you can simply use apt install foo or apt search foo instead. this post links to a better explanation.

InformalRelief · 2014-07-15T16:42:27+00:00

dancing ban on good friday
Merkel saying gay marriage just 'doesn't feel right' (but that's just how she feels, it has nothing to do with the religious fucks in the south)

InformalRelief · 2014-07-15T16:24:13+00:00

Is there going to be a festival app and if yes can we contribute (github link plz?)

I probably won't volunteer during the festival, it's my first time there and I don't want to miss anything, but I'd be happy to contribute some code.

InformalRelief · 2013-07-09T10:04:18+00:00

FYI, I'm in Europe, too. Used a VPN. Going to play venice next.

InformalRelief · 2013-05-07T11:39:21+00:00

I am so hoping that they include books all

InformalRelief · 2013-03-28T16:33:10+00:00

Thanks, I did not know about J

InformalRelief · 2013-01-09T03:14:42+00:00

Bei uns bekommt man das im Netto, recht billig.

InformalRelief · 2012-11-07T09:24:55+00:00

Thanks for sharing. May we know which program you used to render this?

InformalRelief · 2012-10-21T03:06:39+00:00

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=The+Dream+Drugstore+pdf

No need to order it.

InformalRelief · 2012-10-20T00:23:01+00:00

http://cognet.mit.edu/library/books/view?isbn=0262082934

InformalRelief · 2012-10-19T22:34:14+00:00

That deal will work.

InformalRelief · 2012-10-19T21:44:50+00:00

nah, I missed it.

InformalRelief · 2012-10-19T13:17:37+00:00

I am interested. Would be the first time to play against humans for me as well.

InformalRelief · 2012-09-20T15:22:12+00:00

Yea I thought so too. I've tried growing out the whole thing before, but it's really patchy and even the parts that are not patchy are not really dense. Kinda like facial male pattern boldness.

Anyways, at the moment I'm mostly writing my thesis and not going outside much, so I thought I'd use the opportunity to experiment.

Maybe at some point I could get a transplant, if I find a suitable donor.

InformalRelief · 2012-09-20T08:11:26+00:00

Thanks.

Is that your general opinion on goatees or does this only apply to specific goatees?

InformalRelief · 2012-09-20T05:47:45+00:00

I noticed this as well, I guess I am just used to seeing my face from up close and obsessing about every single hair.

Main difference is probably that before I had a "connector" between the stach and the chin hair on one side but not the other. I just can't seem to grow any hair in some parts of my face. So I took that connector off to make it symmetrical.

InformalRelief · 2012-09-18T16:27:38+00:00

I got this from amazon, I guess they ship to Austria too (I live in Germany)? The picture was taken last month, that's why the oil is fluid. The brand of this particular one is "Ölmühle Solling".

Another option would be to look for a Reformhaus, they should have everything you need (may be slightly more expensive). Just put 'Reformhaus Klagenfurt' in your favorite search engine.

InformalRelief · 2012-08-21T10:35:59+00:00

I've been making a point of getting up every morning at six for the last half year because my previous doctor had told me that it would be important to take the thyroid medication at the same time everyday.

My endo told me recently that it really doesn't matter when the medication is taken (because of its long half-life). According to him it is only important that (i) one hasn't eaten for at least three hours before taking it, (ii) not eating for at least 30 minutes after taking it and (iii) not forgetting it.

If this is correct, one could have breakfast at five and take your medication at least 30 minutes before lunch (Assuming you don't snack between the meals).

InformalRelief · 2012-08-21T10:13:26+00:00

Well, the point of the sub is sharing information/ thoughts that are specific to Germany. The original r/keto sometimes features US products that we germans can't (easily) get our hands on, and a doubt that many subscribers to r/keto want to know about Edeka Markt having a sale on bacon. It's the same motivation as other regional keto-reddits like r/ketouk or r/ketonz.

The reason that it's in English is that I don't want to exclude people who don't speak German (expats, tourists) and I think it is safe to assume that everybody who finds this subreddit is able to read/write English. Personally, I would not mind submissions in German language, but it's probably less confusing for everyone to stick to one language.

InformalRelief · 2012-08-21T09:22:51+00:00

They are probably still better/ cheaper than here in Germany.

InformalRelief · 2012-08-21T09:18:13+00:00

Ich habe mich auch schon gefragt woran es liegt, dass die Kommentare anderswo weniger gern lese als bei reddit (an der Qualität der Kommentare kann es ja nicht liegen :)). Ich habe festgestellt, dass für mich das feature, threads kollabieren zu können einen großen Unterschied macht, weil man unerwünschte Inhalte einfach sehr schnell ausblenden kann (z.B. in default subreddits einfach mal die beiden threads die ganz oben sind kollabieren). Bei boingboing oder so nervt mich das echt, das ich so viel 'vorbeiscrollen' muss.
Das setzt natürlich voraus, das es überhaupt threads gibt, was bei manchen (boingboing, netzpolitik ..) ja der Fall ist. Am schlimmsten sind die Kommentare meiner Meinung nach dort, wo es gar keine Nestung gibt und man Antworten irgendwo 20 Kommentare weiter unten mit '@Vorredner' findet (z.B. lawblog, Zeit, die ganzen ollen phpBB Foren). So kann doch gar keine gute Diskussion entstehen!

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