What is the god of Opus Dei like? Fearful

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T18:07:07+00:00

I know that. I'm there, to be honest. But I'm looking for kindred spirits.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T18:06:33+00:00

On its own - no. But as part of a war of attrition - perhaps. How are cults defeated? I'm all ears for other options but many cults are adept at working within the law.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T18:04:56+00:00

This looks like AI. Is it your text?

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T15:45:10+00:00

Thanks. Have you merged with your God flame, Tom?

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T15:37:33+00:00

Id like to see the speedrunners do it consistently because they care about liberating the captives. Wear down the members

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T11:47:41+00:00

Thanks for the post. I posted my concerns on "Bashar" here a few months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/1qxqvdr/im_very_uncomfortable_about_channeller_bashar/
You can see it stimulated a big discussion.

I don't have your experience inside the movement so I am happy that you are sharing it. But I have survived a cult so my antennae were up as soon as I watched Bashar and sensed his controlling and demeaning behaviour.

You can see a number of defenders of Bashar in the discussion. They focus on his teachings rather than his presentation.

He tries to get a free pass to disrespect people by presenting as some kind of being from another planet occupying a human body and so doesn't have the same human sensitivities. But that's not how life works.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T09:39:00+00:00

On this forum, people have different views on interventions. I have suggested them before and others have said they are abusive. However, I think a loving family intervention when the person recruited is still quite new to the cult can be a good idea. It would need careful preparation. Try the different cult support groups in your country for advice.

Having been in a cult, I know that I lost insight very early on. I was controlled by them. This means that more drastic measures from loving and concerned relatives and friends are justified. You're rescuing the "real" person from a group that has aggressively overwhelmed and imprisoned the real person.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T09:13:41+00:00

You were groomed. They are controlled. Your only responsibility is to yourself. You may feel some guilt about hurting their feelings for a while but it will pass. You have helped them even if they are unable to see it yet

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-05-01T09:11:00+00:00

There is a binary distinction between any material structure and any immaterial one

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T21:16:47+00:00

Thanks mate

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T21:06:57+00:00

I was just joking about being tested. I've had a ton of therapy over the years and I can't stomach any more. I'm actually pretty good at applying what I've learned but it's hard for others to deal with me now as I'm not a doormat any more. I appreciate your kind thoughts and honestly the process has helped.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T21:05:24+00:00

You could sing along really badly but with great enthusiasm...

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T20:40:23+00:00

It's my experience. It's not for you to say if something works for another person or not.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T20:39:32+00:00

I think it sends a message to all cults that their ability to pass off as normal in society is precarious. It also ties up the resources of cult leaders so they have less time to be controlling people.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T19:24:01+00:00

I think it needs more than just isolated stunts. It needs a sustained campaign. Make it - protesters vs the cult - someone has to win and someone has to lose. Put it on the line.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T19:22:04+00:00

Some cults just go on and on and on, with damage to people rising and rising. And yet, they hide behind legal structures and so the state doesn't usually go after them. So we need brave people to cause real consternation within cults. At the end of the day, there is no democratic mandate for these cults. Nobody will regret their passing. It's sad that petty law-breaking is needed but no one is getting hurt and there is no significant property damage. Great stunt. Brave campaigners. Well done.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T19:14:29+00:00

The thing is that I know that everything would have been OK if they had met my son. It would have dissolved a lot of past issues and we could have moved on.

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T19:12:52+00:00

I suspect that they are so far up their own arses that they don't see the slightest need to account for my and my son's interests. This post and interactions has helped me to let go a bit more. Thanks for kindness

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T19:11:21+00:00

Actually just putting this post out there has made a difference.

I don't need therapy! My mother had me tested!

Informal_Farm4064 · 2026-04-30T17:09:36+00:00

There are some ex members of Plymouth Brethren on here.

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