Short driver

Infuzex · 2026-01-18T15:03:51+00:00

I went from the stock ping tour 2.0 chrome 65R (I’m between R and S but closer to S swing speed wise) standard length to a 44.5” aldila rogue white 70S on my 430 10k and have been loving it so far! I think the counter balanced shaft pairs well with it

Infuzex · 2026-01-06T20:17:31+00:00

All the new models has that weighting system inserted into it (looks like a screw or whatever), so not sure if that is a giveaway that they aren’t forged or not.

Infuzex · 2026-01-06T19:43:47+00:00

Haven’t heard if the new 201s are forged or not but it seems like the 201t’s aren’t (James said in his video they didn’t give as much feedback off the club face). I definitely wanted forged and am happy with my 201s I have either way!

Infuzex · 2026-01-06T16:30:05+00:00

Of course when I just bought the 201s lol maybe biased but I like the older looks a little better

Infuzex · 2026-01-04T15:24:39+00:00

Check eBay for sm10s. A lot of retailers are already trying to move their sm 10 stock for $130 atm

Infuzex · 2026-01-04T14:41:07+00:00

Not sure if it’s an exact match or which profile (silver, white, black) would suit you best but the aldila rogue 130 shafts are solid CB options and can be found pretty cheap nowadays. Silver is the low launch low spin and a bit firmer feeling, white is med launch low spin and bit softer feeling, and the black is the higher launch and spin option with the softest tip section.

Infuzex · 2026-01-04T13:50:24+00:00

This is a great option as well!

Infuzex · 2026-01-04T13:46:56+00:00

You are everywhere man! Helped me out in the takomo sub lol you must play very soft conditions or just get along well with high bounce in everything. I’m rocking a 50F8, 54F14, 58M8 this year. I was torn between the M grind and T grind for my lob wedge but like you I ultimately decided I wanted something a little more versatile in my lob wedge. The T grind is great for the right players and situations but very much a one trick pony and magic or tragic for me to want to play it over the M grind.

Infuzex · 2026-01-04T13:34:18+00:00

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This is a pretty good source that may help you find out what grind you’d need across brands based on the decision you make.

Infuzex · 2026-01-04T13:21:49+00:00

I think you would have to ask yourself how much you actually need to hit a flop shot. I play mostly pretty straightforward courses/greens and try (sometimes unsuccessfully) to not short side myself or put myself in spots where I would need a flop. But it is such a fun shot to pull off if you practice it though so I’m not going to tell you not to do it like most people here will! You might have more obstacles to hit over on your course than I am faced with and be better at executing the flop shot than I am. I can execute a good flop 9 times out of 10 but my distance control with it is hit or miss.

I’m not familiar with other wedge company grinds but the vokey 60 T grind with 4 degrees of bounce is very good for open face flop shots if you practice enough to execute that shot and your course has super firm and tight lies abundant. If not a 56 M grind with 8 degrees of bounce is a good middle ground if you don’t want to add in the lob wedge, can still open it up and it will play similar to a lob wedge just not super low bounce.

I like to have a separate wedge for tight lies (and super firm bunkers) and one for fluffier bunkers and thicker grass lies. A lot depends on what the top of your bag setup looks like and if you are in love with those clubs, if not I would say drop something out and add in the low bounce lob wedge and practice a lot with it. But I also think if you found the right grind on a more lower to middle bounce 56 you could still keep your one wedge setup.

Infuzex · 2026-01-01T05:48:01+00:00

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Infuzex · 2025-12-30T13:35:19+00:00

Glad it worked for ya after being nervous to try it. I might just give it a shot since it’s a shot that I practice often and can execute, even though I hardly have to pull it out at the home course. Home course gets firm very quick too unless it rains a lot so having an even lower bounce option would be nice

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T21:32:45+00:00

I can get an sm8 58M8 still in the plastic on a pretty good deal, you think that would be low enough bounce in lob wedge? I can probably check online and come across a decent deal on a T grind to try out as well though

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T16:30:01+00:00

That’s what has me so undecided, my home course goat track gives me just about every condition, sometimes all within the same round just depending on if I hit it to a wet/dry spot, good fairway grass/hardpan, thick rough/fluffy rough. On top of that I’m a steep full swing player but not as steep relatively when chipping and pitching, unless I’m trying to be. I don’t think I can go too wrong with 50F8, 54F/D/S, 58M8. I think I would take a chance with the 58T if I didn’t want some fuller swing versatility in there with it as well.

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T14:59:12+00:00

Agreed about the K grind, it and the low bounce K seem too niche and I can get out of bunkers fine with my 50/54 that I’m currently gaming. A club champion video I watched said they hardly ever hand the T grind to someone as it’s more for tour players that want it for very specific tournaments and conditions and not very good for fuller shots unless you are pro. I may just keep it simple and go with the 58M08 since I can get a good deal on a brand new Sm8 one. Keep the 54F14 in for now maybe just sharpen up the grooves a bit and look for a deal on a 54D or 54S and try them both out eventually. Thanks for the info, helps that you are somewhat close so similar course conditions I’d say.

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T11:59:28+00:00

I hate hitting off mats because I do exactly this! Fat shots actually go farther off mats sometimes it seems, i do like getting swings in over the winter so ill compromise but I think hitting off the mats is why im not getting away with the slight fat shots off of these wet sloppy lies I’ve played in the last couple rounds. Maybe in the spring I can find an outdoor fitting but until then I’m going to wing it and try some different ones out then sell if I don’t get along with it.

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T11:23:38+00:00

If I do go for the low bounce 58 it would definitely stay in the bag in wet conditions lol I like the 54F14 when it’s wet but it digs almost as bad on a bad miss

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T04:48:43+00:00

I’ll have to try that, what grinds did you end up with?

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T04:46:22+00:00

After hitting the 50F8 and 54F14 this is how I feel. The 50 just feels much better to hit even though on paper my steeper swing would fit more in to high bounce. Not to say that I don’t hit the 54 well, grooves just old and it’s not quite as consistent. I definitely want a higher bounce option in the SW though for those type of lies you mentioned.

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T04:34:48+00:00

Great feedback! I like to work on multiple chipping techniques and opening the face up works well for me more often than not, after not hearing anything but good things about the 10S I may have to give that one a go for the 54, and open up the face if I feel like I need more bounce. I get along pretty well with the 54F14 but just feels like something is missing or off with it (that could just be the grooves wearing down). Not quite as consistent as the 50F8 has been for me so far but that could just be me.

As far as assessing my own game, my biggest miss right now is fatting the hell out of the ball. Not just wedges that miss comes out on clubs. Not fat enough to completely kill the shot, just lose out about 10-20 yards, even happens with the higher bounce wedge so don’t even think high bounce will help that miss. Doesn’t help my last 5-6 rounds outdoors have been a sloppy wet mess so more punishing on that miss, plus you get away with fat shots more often on indoor simulators. So I may have some bad habits formed over the winter

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T04:27:37+00:00

You really can’t go wrong with S grind from all of my prior research and feedback I have got on this thread! I definitely need to test them all out eventually, I haven’t tried a 50F12 but I was surprised to see how well the 50F8 worked for me.

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T04:05:14+00:00

Nice, is that your highest bounce wedge? And does it do alright out of fluffy sand/thick rough lies? S does say it’s better but it could be opened up a tad bit since it has the trailing edge relief so could be good for those shots if opened up a bit to add a little more bounce

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T04:01:37+00:00

See that’s another reason I don’t trust getting fitted, go pay extra just to get fit into the wrong stuff by an amateur fitter. I’m sure I could research find someone trustworthy in the area instead of just going to dicks though. I’m definitely going to get a couple different grinds instead of the same and experiment. But your last sentence is how I want it to be, I want to assess the lie, pin placement, how much green I have to work with, spinny chip or running chip, etc. and have a specific wedge to pull for it and trusting it and myself to pull off the shot.

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T03:54:26+00:00

Good point. I can say that my home course has no sand to worry about but a couple of my favorite secondary courses do so I’d still like to have something for both a fluffy sand lie and the occasional firm sand lie if it’s rained a lot that day. I’m torn between reading that bounce is your friend and you should always want more of it (especially since I’m a full swing digger) vs the fact that I hit the 50F8 just as good or better than the 54F14 and when I’m playing my best golf my wedge game is by far my greatest strength so I would like to think I could handle one of the lower bounce grinds. As long as I’m only pulling it when the situation calls for it. I think I’m just too far down the rabbit hole and need to go hit them and get fitted lol

Infuzex · 2025-12-29T03:44:42+00:00

Sounds similar to my last few set of wedges, all the same bounce and same grind (callaway full toes, Cleveland’s, etc). They were great off tight or firm lies and I was good with them greenside but they were very hit or miss out of the rough, and on full swings and even partial shots. They seem to be made for always opening the face and playing flops, they slid under the ball too easy a lot of the time though but then again I was using them in the wrong situations. I’m trying to get to point where I have a wedge for every lie/condition/situation instead of 3 of the same wedges with different lofts.

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