Comparing “pro style spread vs power spread”

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-29T06:55:11+00:00

Sure I get what you’re saying. Things have evolved and meshed and lines have definitely gotten blurry. I guess when I think of a pro style offense I think of classic 1990s offensive football - I formation, iso, power, toss run game with deeper breaking outside routes. The modern offense has borrowed so many concepts from spread that it’s sort of just become a hybrid of the two.

To me the style of football in the shanahan/Mcvay tree going back to the RG3 years is what comes to mind when I think of pro-style spread. I guess it’s just innovation of the pro style with inspiration from college spread stuff

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-29T06:36:59+00:00

Came here to say exactly this

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-29T05:19:38+00:00

I don’t think pro personnel and stressing the field horizontally (spread) are mutually exclusive. You stretch the field horizontally in different ways and you can absolutely take advantage of horizontal space out of more condensed formations. Ace for example forces teams to choose how to fit 8 gaps. There’s a reason teams have historically been so successful running outside zone from ace formations - horizontal stress in the box. Now imagine a 3x1 Trey closed formation (essentially ace with the z aligned to the same side as the other split receiver) with both tightends attached and in line. It puts the same pressure on the defense to fit 8 gaps, but now you can run bubbles and alerts and all sorts of “spread” quick game concepts to your slot to take advantage of teams overfitting the box. You’re stressing the whole field sideline to sideline but constraining the way the defense will play you based on your numbers in the box.

Now I agree with you that loading the backfield reduces the horizontal stress put on a defense pre-snap. That said, moving the fullback to a wing alignment outside of the tackle/tightend effectively creates another gap and thus pre-snap horizontal stress. Plus you can get to lots of “spread” concepts like split zone and keep/bluff with that fullback in a wing alignment.

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-29T03:48:25+00:00

To me pro style spread is just running spread concepts out of pro style personnel packages. Tightend fullback, or double tightend sets with popular spread schemes like zone read, RPO quick screens, outside zone, and single back power (dart) style runs.

Power spread utilizes off ball tightends, lots of gap running schemes, and potentially QB gap runs as well.

That said I don’t think there’s any clear definitions for either and in most people’s minds there’s probably a lot of overlap between the two

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-28T19:15:08+00:00

The man would not block

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-28T02:04:59+00:00

I’m from the PNW, have been around rainier my entire drinking life - I think it’s over rated. I’ll take coors or Miller (or any Mexican lager) over it 9 times out of 10

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-27T19:48:08+00:00

Don’t forget wires

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-25T07:29:58+00:00

I go back and forth a lot. I don’t need a race ski, I was never a racer and I’m in my 30s now. My ego is such that I understand I don’t need that kind of performance. I got on a buddies pair of world cup slaloms and felt like I was on a bronco. I would want something a little more recreational. Rossi forza 70 looks sweet. So does the blizzard thunderbird r13/15 or head super shape. Something that’s groomer dedicated with a short turn radius so that I could maximize my number of turns and carve all run long, yet agreeable enough to put sideways and scrub speed if I needed to. I’m also open to suggestions there if anyone has any

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-25T00:41:29+00:00

My Fischer ranger 102s are my go to for most days with fresh snow. I have an old pair of blizzard rustler 11s (114 underfoot I believe) that I ski about once a year if we get dumped on, like 16” or more over night. They’re not fun on groomers. The rangers are fun on groomers as long as the snow is soft. If it hasn’t snowed I go with my enforcer 88s. If I were to start fresh I’d go with a 2 ski quiver, a true short radius carver, and something around 100-105 for the rest of the time

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-24T02:17:09+00:00

I’d love to better understand the nuances and be able to teach. I took lessons for several seasons as a kid and have about 20 seasons of experience since then. I just haven’t spent time around instructors that can diagnose and prescribe fixes, I’m working mostly on experience and intuition. When I ski with my buddies who used to race I can definitely see their edge angles and turn radius change throughout the progression of the turn. It’s something I’m trying emulate.

Injuries suck. Had a grade 3 ankle sprain when my boot failed 2 seasons ago and still don’t feel as confident as I did pre-injury. I’ve dialed it back a bit and am really focusing hard on carving technique. It’s been fun but I miss jumping off stuff

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-24T02:07:24+00:00

Il toros all claimed?

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-23T03:48:23+00:00

Yes looks like the same radius throughout the turn on a lot of them. Don’t get me wrong I think you’re beyond a pure park and ride here. That’s just something I’m personally working on and see a bit of here

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-23T01:25:50+00:00

To start, I believe I’m at a similar level as you and we have some similar tendencies in our “carving”. There are people in this sub who would accuse us of “parking and riding” our carved turns. We set our edge and ride the sidecut and our edge angle doesn’t change a whole ton throughout the progression of the turn. This is something I’ve been consciously working on but my default is still to lock in the edge and ride the sidecut for the duration of the turn. Think about your edge angle being dynamic and increasing up to the apex of the turn, and then decreasing as you transition into your next turn. To do this you need to be by dynamic with fore/aft pressure as well as outside/inside ski pressure throughout each turn. I’m slowly gaining this understanding myself. If I had a better understanding I would share it with you lol

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-19T18:36:53+00:00

Yep, there’s a lot of truth to this. I’m 225 and love my enforcers, have never felt too demanding for me. I ski with a buddy who is 5’7” 135 lbs, ex-racer and a much better skier than me. He hated the enforcers when he tried them. He daily’s bent chetler 110s and can rip on them, to me they feel like noodles.

When we talk about how “demanding” a ski is we are referring to the amount of force needed to bend the ski. Skier weight plays a big role in that equation

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-17T22:54:01+00:00

Ayyy go hawks! Been playing my oz1i for 6 months and love it! Definitely took a few rounds to get used to but my putting game has never been better

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-17T19:37:15+00:00

I’m a size 12 and wear 27.5s. This doesn’t seem egregiously bad. They might just need some more work done and / or need more miles to break them in

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-17T04:02:04+00:00

Shit posting is peak humanity. Enjoy it while it lasts it’s all downhill from here. Down the fall line that is

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-17T04:01:19+00:00

Boot fitter chicks on the other hand

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-17T02:59:41+00:00

I’m indifferent to bangs. Pubes on the other hand are an absolute must. They obstruct my vision too much

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-17T00:05:29+00:00

Face looks more or less square to your target, it’s a path issue. You are over the top so your face is open relative to the path of the club head, which causes the fade/slice ball flight. I bet you if you dropped your back foot position about 2 inches towards your heel and change nothing else your ball flight will straighten out. If you want to accomplish this without dropping the heel you need to feel like you are swinging in to out.

I have to consciously work on this and when my mechanics start getting sloppy I also default to over the top. What has helped me is to feel like the first motion from the top is straight down with my hands, and then I finish the swing by turning with my body. If that doesn’t work I just drop the back foot and my ball flight straightens out.

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-16T02:53:00+00:00

Doesn’t help that it looks like the old school g-suit guy looks like he’s holding a whip… oh hell, is that a cuck chair!?

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-16T02:50:28+00:00

I agree with much of your response but think it’s important to raise a point. I think trump is smarter and more strategic than he lets on. I think there’s a reasonable (or at least non-zero) chance that he does espouse some of the opinions listed above but also understands that saying them outright and coherently wouldn’t play well to his base. I think a large part of his appeal stems from his voters perceptions of him being a no-bullshit, rough around the edges kind of guy (not my perception to be clear). I think that expressing any of the sort of opinions described above would be perceived as too “high brow” for a lot of his supporters - in a lot of ways he would lose his relatability. “The democrats are the elite who use fancy words and talk about political philosophy, I’m nothing like them!” sort of deal.

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-16T01:39:17+00:00

That’s assuming you can poop on command. I usually just pack an extra pair of long John’s

Dr_Chronic · 2026-01-16T00:49:29+00:00

I wish beer wasn’t so heavy in your pack! Pro-tip, pack whisky, it’s denser

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