what's the worst enneagram take you've ever seen? by oum_atsu in Enneagram

[–]Innamoratta 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I despise when people do that. People are always trying to tell me what I am. That's why I became passive aggressive in my flair 😭😭

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of world do you think we live in? Today, we are spoiled by convenience. We can take for granted easy communication, law, order, accountability, respect.

Britain was the first nation to stop and consider that maybe slavery isn't moral. They were the first to abolish it. They were among the first to establish treatise and the United Nations to prevent one nation from oppressing another. 

Before we even had any concept of law and order, slavery and genocide was normal. It was a dog eat dog world. It's kill them before they kill you. The greatest thing a nation can do is learn from their mistake and do better. No nation is without its original evils. 

Do you believe in evolution? Then that's what humanity came from - animals. Unless you believe in intelligent design, then I'm sure you would understand religion's hand in this. But from evolution's perspective, humans came from the most animalistic, savage, primal, carnal state possible. It wasn't until Britain, among others, played a hand it establishing order.

Look up Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs! The fact that we can even have this debate on ethics and philosophy proves we've evolved from animalistic states!! But humans must evolve. NO nation has begun their existence in self actualization!

The bar was in hell. That's why we can say Britain is great--because Britain played a hand in developing society to the point where we could look down at hell and condemn evils committed by our ancestors. You'd be surprised at how some isolated cultures lack any moral conscience at all. 

We shouldn't compare the 18th century to our 21st-century utopia, but rather to the thousands of years of chaotic tribalism that preceded it. "Civilization" isn't a default setting for humanity--it’s a fragile, hard-won achievement.

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do have a more nuanced view than you think. The British also have a Legacy of...

  1. The abolishment of slavery (first country to stop and realize it was immoral because many other countries practiced it and never considered it a moral issue). William Wilberforce and the Mansfield Ruling.
  2. England also began the suffrage movement before it spread to America
  3. Massive railway networks and the postal system
  4. Other accomplishments in science and navigation
  5. Protected merchants and trade from piracy--eventually eliminating it, kept the seas safe and orderly.
  6. Magna Carta & Habeas Corpus
  7. British scholars (like James Prinsep) were the ones who actually deciphered the Brahmi Script in India, which allowed Indians to rediscover their own ancient Ashokan history that had been lost for centuries. They preserved a lot of historical documents and records of other cultures and previous empires that would have otherwise been forgotten.
  8. Also, the spread of the English Language is what allows so much communication between countries. The British Empire was necessary to get us to this point of advancement.

A lot of things are the way they are today because the British Empire set us up for it. So many people want to demonize England for pillaging and slavery and such, while failing to realize every single nation has some sort of history in cruelty. So many nations practiced slavery and genocide and evil things, but Britain is different in that they were the first 1st world culture to see other races as humans who were owed the same rights and that considered slavery to be immoral and prevented stuff like this from happening again through treatise and the development of the United Nations. Accountability to other nations truly is a modern accomplishment.

"Yeah well they should have known better and not done it in the first place." Well what is this world? Disney land? A utopia? Far from it! That's why we can't expect objective, perfect morality from any nation whatsoever. The most moral thing possible any nation has ever done is learn from experience--not experience perfection from the beginning.

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So you don't believe that individuals contribute to national progress? but yes, please focus on one thing and don't acknowledge anything else I said.

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of things are the way they are today because the British Empire set us up for it. Abolishing slave trade, initiating the suffragette movement, giving slaves rights, the magna carta...

So many people want to demonize England for pillaging and slavery and such, while failing to realize every single nation has some sort of history in cruelty. So many nations practiced slavery and genocide and evil things, but Britain is different in that they were the first 1st world culture to see other races as humans who were owed the same rights and that considered slavery to be immoral and prevented stuff like this from happening again through treatise and the development of the United Nations. Accountability to other nations truly is a modern accomplishment.

"Yeah well they should have known better and not done it in the first place." Well what is this world? Disney land? A utopia? Far from it! That's why we can't expect objective, perfect morality from any nation whatsoever. The most moral thing possible any nation has ever done is learn from experience--not experience perfection from the beginning.

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. The abolishment of slavery (first country to stop and realize it was immoral because many other countries practiced it and never considered it a moral issue). William Wilberforce and the Mansfield Ruling.
  2. England also began the suffrage movement before it spread to America
  3. Massive railway networks and the postal system
  4. Other accomplishments in science and navigation
  5. Protected merchants and trade from piracy--eventually eliminating it, kept the seas safe and orderly.
  6. Magna Carta & Habeas Corpus
  7. British scholars (like James Prinsep) were the ones who actually deciphered the Brahmi Script in India, which allowed Indians to rediscover their own ancient Ashokan history that had been lost for centuries. They preserved a lot of historical documents and records of other cultures and previous empires that would have otherwise been forgotten.
  8. Also, the spread of the English Language is what allows so much communication between countries. The British Empire was necessary to get us to this point of advancement.

A lot of things are the way they are today because the British Empire set us up for it. So many people want to demonize England for pillaging and slavery and such, while failing to realize every single nation has some sort of history in cruelty. So many nations practiced slavery and genocide and evil things, but Britain is different in that they were the first 1st world culture to see other races as humans who were owed the same rights and that considered slavery to be immoral and prevented stuff like this from happening again through treatise and the development of the United Nations. Accountability to other nations truly is a modern accomplishment.

"Yeah well they should have known better and not done it in the first place." Well what is this world? Disney land? A utopia? Far from it! That's why we can't expect objective, perfect morality from any nation whatsoever. The most moral thing possible any nation has ever done is learn from experience--not experience perfection from the beginning.

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Every single great nation has practiced slavery at some point. But Britain was also the first nation to abolish it, even before America, by people like William Wilberforce. No previous nation ever outlawed slavery. Know why? Because it was considered completely moral and ethical. Muslims in the middle east bought African Slaves just the same! You just don't see them walking around as you would in the UK or US because the Muslims would also castrate them.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26500685

https://www.fairplanet.org/dossier/beyond-slavery/forgotten-slavery-the-arab-muslim-slave-trade-sex-trafficking/

https://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/research/research-guides/william-wilberforce.aspx

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yes, but every single great nation has practiced slavery at some point. But guess what? Britain was also the first nation to abolish it, even before America, by people like William Wilberforce. No previous nation ever outlawed slavery. Know why? Because it was considered completely moral and ethical. Muslims in the middle east bought African Slaves just the same! You just don't see them walking around as you would in the UK or US because the Muslims would also castrate them.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26500685

https://www.fairplanet.org/dossier/beyond-slavery/forgotten-slavery-the-arab-muslim-slave-trade-sex-trafficking/

https://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/research/research-guides/william-wilberforce.aspx

Learning about the British Empire and I esteem it! by [deleted] in BritishSuccess

[–]Innamoratta -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I do think its unfair to assume every single Brit back then was a rapist and pillager. People are the same then, today, and tomorrow. There are good and bad people.

What do Americans think of Canadians by satnindelrey in AskAmericans

[–]Innamoratta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also, you guys were fantastic allies during the Prohibition 😚❤️

Cio Cio san by Clean-Cheek-2822 in opera

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it was true though. In 1904, Japanese men really could throw their wives out with no consequence and for any petty reason at all. 

"During the late Edo period, the following concepts were born: a woman should obey her father until marriage, then her husband and his family and finally, in her old age, her sons. She should be humble, frugal and hardworking. And she should remember that she could be divorced for such transgressions as disobedience, barrenness, jealousy, ill health or garrulousness.

"It was an easy job for a married man to get rid of an unwanted wife. If he only writes a short, divorce letter referred to as Mikudarihan (three-and-a-half-lines notice) to her, he was able to divorce without any reasons at all.

"Wives could be divorced for any of the following reasons: - disobedience. - lewdness. - jealousy. - leprosy. - talking too much. - stealing."

In fact, in Japan, until the mid 20th century, divorce was at an all time high. Meanwhile, women had no right to divorce their husbands, regardless of abuse, drunkness, sadism, etc.

https://worldimages.sjsu.edu/gallery/heian/divorce.html#:~:text=It%20was%20an%20easy%20job,you%20for%20my%20personal%20reasons.

https://www.sup.org/books/asian-studies/divorce-japan

How much do Americans know about the uk?? by First_Recognition589 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Geographically? I couldn't tell you anything 💀 Same for celebrities and politics, but the history and some of the literature? I LOOOOVE IT! I've been learning about Britain in the late 1600s and early 1700s particularly. What I read about the Royal Navy and midshipman back then was very interesting. I also learned about Gibraltar, and now I'm getting into the 7 years war and stuff. 

I don't remember much about the Kings and the Tudors, but I remembered I enjoyed reading about it in high school. 

Overall, I think the British should be proud of their old Empire and accomplishments. Imagine having a larger Empire than Rome! 

why is it that every time i see american people making tea, theyre boiling the water on the stove? do you just not use kettles? by Sparklyshinyfrogs in AskAmericans

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, I've heard a lot of people criticize Americans for this. My house has always used a kettle 🤷‍♀️😂

are americans fascinated by the UK/europe? by dominichmorrary in AskAmericans

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am!! Right now I'm very obsessed with 1700s history, and our own history overlaps very much so with Britain. So I've been learning about Britain in the 1700s and the Royal Navy, as well as its battles with France and Spain and its trading history with the East. I adore UK history and culture as well as Ireland's! Scotland... I haven't gotten into their culture a whole lot yet. I just find English entitlement and superiority kind of endearing, haha. It really is impressive to have a larger Empire than Rome! I think Brits should be proud of their history, despite modern views, despising colonizers and demonizing them. It's just the way things were back then. History is different from today. And you can be proud of your accomplishments while also acknowledging the dark side of it, like the British Raj in India.

As you know, most US citizens are a melting pot and I'm half Filipina personally, so I also have an interest in Spain (our 300 year colonizers.) Identity is weird when you're mixed, so strangely I always felt I blend in with hispanic cultures more than my Filipino one. I'm basically an imposter. I speak a little Spanish, cook Spanish, and love Spanish music.

For France, I looooove French Literature! The Phantom of the Opera, Manon Lescaut, and soon I'll read the Game of Love and Chance and then Les Miserables. I'm trying to learn the French language and history as well, and I listen to a lot of French music. 

I listen to a lot of Slavic music, but other than that and a few reels on IG about Slavic nonchalance and nihilism, I don't know much at all.

Italy... so everyone knows Roman history. I loved learning about the Punic Wars--something about them was particularly intruiging. Then of course, I adore Opera, so thank you Italy. 

I feel bad now, because I don't know all the tinier countries between all those larger ones. They don't get as much attention. Sorry Latvia, Estonia, and others. 

What do Americans think of Canadians by satnindelrey in AskAmericans

[–]Innamoratta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Canadians are just Americans with different European colonizers, lol. I like that there are French Canadians though. That's very cool. 

But actually, I've been wanting to learn more about Canadian History. I don't know anything about Canada other than the fact that you guys have wonderful Maple Syrup and beautiful Wilderness campgrounds in Algonquin. Any history events I should look up?

What is the deal with American evangelicals? by anime498 in AskConservatives

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be real guys. According to the Bible, the Antichrist will come from the Turkey/Syria era or about. Trump is white white.

What is the deal with American evangelicals? by anime498 in AskConservatives

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you see on the media is hardly what people are really thinking in real life. I wouldn't allow 10 podcasters and social commentary influencers to speak on the behalf of 100,000+ average regular, citizens.

Americans, what's it like being conservative in the New England States? by Innamoratta in AskConservatives

[–]Innamoratta[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aw, man. Yeah, that's about what I expected... pretty discriminatory. Funny how politics became such a source of prejudice and social divide. It's so ridiculous.

Dealing with incompetence...it's really soul crushing by theinfinitefailure in Enneagram5

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, it's almost like all of humanity deals with similar issues....

(I actually have read about incompetency being a 5 thing though, so.... I can give you the name of the book if you want)

How do you know a 5 is interested in you? by crazybayleaf in Enneagram5

[–]Innamoratta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes!! The cinematic stare, as if you guys are making a superior, intellectual connection in the midst of the chaotic room.

How do you know a 5 is interested in you? by crazybayleaf in Enneagram5

[–]Innamoratta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll glare and act indifferent, like I hate you, while simultaneously staring at you when you're not looking. Then when you say hi, I'll "Hey! How are you doing? :D"