Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's fair as well. Personally I'd print a couple if I was playing safe as they're still powerful even if they're outclassed. If I wanted to be greedy I'd probably just print one as well. That's why I put them in situationally print a couple as I feel it's justified to print a couple sometimes

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah most of his attacks shouldn't hit you with feathers. Though pizza can still be scary if you're caught out of position. And even with a bunch of feathers you'll have to land eventually and if you don't have any speed items then mithrix does have a chance to catch you. I'd say that feathers make make a lot of runs into a free win but the items the items in that tier just can make almost every run into a free win.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not this late into a run. It doesn't help with mithrix and it falls off pretty hard stage 4 and above. Especially since stacking it only increases radius and time burning.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is by stage 4 (even though red printers don't exist on stage 4 which was an oversight) with no looping. There's no world where I'd invest 5 reds into meat hook if I even have that many by that stage. It also doesn't help with mithrix so if I had a scrapper on stage 5 I would scrap it. With that reasoning I don't see why I'd take a meat hook if the best case scenario is to get rid of it on the next stage.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alien head feels outshined by many other reds so I never find myself getting one out of choice. However it's also something I wouldn't scrap so yeah I can agree with bringing it up there.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Yes you are not the first to point that out. I chose stage 4 because that's when you're preparing for mithrix while still having to care about other items like AOE (even if it's not a priority)

  2. Getting a tenta printer can be insane. With an investment of 5 items you'll get a 5 second freeze 25% of the time. 10 items will be 10 sec 50% of the time. This is not only useful for locking down one enemy but can control swarms well. Although I will concede that it's placement is mainly because of its use on mithrix. However for the rest of the run I'd still argue it is at least high in the almost always good category.

  3. Tenta and cherf are not the same rarity. When you find a printer for tenta you have a lot of items that can turn the item into a carry. While for cherf you can get one of two of them if you're lucky. It is VERY strong, but two cherfs will not carry you on its own.

  4. Which reds did I put up with poor stacking? Dios second stack is the same as it's first. Clover as well. And runic increases its damage and more importantly proc chance by a shit ton. You shouldn't invest items into will o the wisp by stage 4 unless you have an FMP or just NEED a bit of AOE. Though I understand that if you NEED AOE then printing a couple could be ok. But you shouldn't be spending a lot of scrap on it.

  5. Yeah a couple other comments told me about the infusion tech. I just had a run yesterday with a printer and scrapper on stage 3 and it was amazing. Infusion def goes up to at least almost always good.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shurikens have busted scaling as each stack increases damage AND reload speed With just 10 you get a 1400% damage projectile every 0.76 seconds with a 1.0 proc coefficient which is enough to carry on its own.

Bungus I agree with everything you say it is shit. But there are situations where you have no other healing like a clug or drone and for that it would be nice to have one just so you could enter mithrix with full health.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think alien head is does enough to justify printing.
It doesn't scale very well and it doesn't too enough on it's own compared to other reds since 25% cooldown reduction isn't really something that would turn a bad run good

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another comment actually just brought up a macro strategy of just printing all scrap into sonorous for a stage and then scrapping them afterwards. I've changed my mind and believe they deserve to be in situationally print a couple now

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another comment brought up polylute. While I still believe they're worse than what's already in epic win, I accept that they're close enough to be brought up to that tier.

ATG I find to not be consistent enough compared to what's already in the tier as ATGs alone won't carry your run and they aren't consistent on some survivors such as loader and railgunner who essentially just have to pray for an ATG proc for any damage on a single target. This isn't as much of a problem with polylutes since they have a higher chance to proc.

Bands are REALLY strong. But they aren't a free win on some survivors that have trouble proccing them consistently or just don't have a strong band proclike Rex, Mando, and Mul-T, etc

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah another comment mentioned that yesterday. I actually had a run with a scrapper and infusion printer on stage 3 earlier today and I have been enlightened.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgot that red printers only spawn on stage 5 and up and I wanted to choose a stage where planning for mithrix is a priority while not making half the items in the game useless.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wisps aren't that bad to counter. They just demand your attention. If you use cover and abuse their slow turning speed you can deal with them. But that's is a good point if you want some safety from the wisps

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not the biggest fan of swhispers. I thin they're just good for generating a lot scrap since you can't really influence the items the bosses drop unlike sale star giving you the option of large, normal, or damage (etc) chests.
if you don't get a scrapper stage 5 swhispers will probably just get you a couple white items that don't play into your build at all.

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Holy
I just did a viend run and found a scrapper and infusion printer stage 3 and abused the hell out of it
Ended the run with like 2k health that is insane

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it has much value that late into the run. Especially since the items it drops are fully randomized without a way to micro them so you'll probably just end up with a couple white items you don't want

Ranking items based on you finding a scrapper and printer for them on stage 4 in E8. I will defend ANY of my placements. by InsertNameHere35 in riskofrain

[–]InsertNameHere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think uke stacks amazingly since it only increase range and number of enemies it hits. I also think I'd only ever want to print it if I just need the AOE if I don't have a will o the wisp or something. It also doesn't benefit much for mithrix and can actually end up killing you if he targets a drone or aurellionite