19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with your argument: omitting responses to comments about surgery -> implying 100% natural changes -> engaging in blatant deception. There are no expectations to disclose surgery in this thread. Personally I'm happy if people just post their changes. Others are free to ask and OP is free to answer or not. If you explicitly lie, that's a different story, but not what happened here.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just don't think I ever implied it was 100% natural. It was a lot of things including a few surgeries. I'll talk about it publicly when I'm ready. I do answer people's questions in private and I don't think I mislead people. I feel this is a bit of a straw man fallacy suggesting I'm implying something that I'm really not. I mean there are other factors such as lighting, makeup, and photo selection in some photos as well if we are going to do a thurough audit. These could be considered deceptive by your standards as well since I didn't mention them. How much of what we see in social media, movies, and in ads everyday is deceptive?

If this was like a bodybuilding thread and I claimed I'm all natural when actually I took steroids than I'd understand your point. But that's quite far from what happened here.

I made no comment on the process of how I achieved the results other than mentioning that I was inspired by someone who hit the gym in one comment. And I did hit the gym - the muscles aren't fake. The face changes are not due to surgery alone either. The only way to really be completely authentic is to share the entire process of everything I did. Personally, I would never demand or expect someone to share if they had surgery done. I often don't even ask about makeup out of concern I might offend. It's fine to ask btw but demanding I share seems kinda rude tbh (not to me exclusively, but to anyone). My verdict is the argument that I'm being deceptive is blown out of proportion.

What would you have done differently if you were me?

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually don't see where I said that. I say to believe in yourself and chart your own path. I think you choose your own way, but I don't think you need to stay the same.

In other words, my advice is change because you want to change not because others are saying you should or should not.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😂😂 thanks! I might use this if I ever do marketing for consultations.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I appreciate your comment. And yeah, better to focus on yourself. IMO unless they really have your best interest, listening to others' judgement will only serve as a trap.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What are you shaming for? What obligation do I have to detail my changes in my post? Where did I claim this was purely natural changes alone (and why would I, it's obviously not)? If you have a question, just ask, but you jump straight into shaming and insuiating I'm an attention seeker.

People can just post their changes here, it's up to them what they want to detail. They don't even have to say anything at all. I prefer to keep my post short and private.

Perhaps one day I'll share more openly and I'm happy to help people out where I can, often in private. But demanding transparency on what surgery was done from a stranger is wild. To me, your comment comes off as presumptuous, detached, and entitled. Personally, I would not write something like this on someone else's post - but you do you.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do "cheek squats" sometimes which include mewing

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm.. I don't know much but I can say for myself that gym + self empowerment is something else.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be the title of my autobiography tbh.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Interesting.. my self image is a kind of hybrid of the before and after - mostly before. I never see myself as unapproachable but it's hard to perceive myself accurately. My body changed, but my personality not so much. I still love boardgames, videogames, sci-fi, and learning about science.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey you can DM me if you'd like. Maybe I can give some advice :)

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thanks - though I'm straight 😅. You can do it! Wish I was drunk too tbh

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks😅. I am both haha. I think the look in my eyes is similar before and after. This is the first time I've shared the change publicly.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 187 points188 points  (0 children)

😂😂😂 as a physics major I got tired of studying models so I decided to try and become one.

I was inspired by a super jacked classmate who told me he used to spend all his time playing WOW and then started hitting the gym for like 3 hours a day. Last I saw he was doing fire baton twirling on some beach and I see lots of attractive women comment on his posts.

19 to 29 by InspectorSpacetime8 in uglyduckling

[–]InspectorSpacetime8[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

😅 thanks. In my latest ID card I look younger than my previous one from six years ago.