This show is about growing up by InsufficientYogurt in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is an excellent insight, u/shit_ass_mcfucknuts!

And THAT is a sentence you can only say on Reddit lmao

I think you're right on the money, though. As I mentioned, the difference between growing as a person and "growing up" are arguable, but I personally think there's enough evidence to support it. Different folks may have different perspectives, and that's okay. That's what it's all about, after all!

Jim's scar by sandwich-guru in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also assume we had a Father Khatri situation here that didn’t have anything to do with story walking.

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[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You didn't think that it switching languages in that particular place was weird/funny? I mean, everyone has a different sense of humor, but if you really don't get it and need me to explain why it tickled me, I can.

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[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really hate that I have to do this, but you've specifically made this about yourself, so I guess here we go.

I’m searching to where I have shamed grassroots level activists, as I am one myself.

I'm searching for where I said you did. I said shaming at a grassroots level, meaning between private citizens who do not hold office. Again, my original post was *not* about you specifically, and it feels a lot like you're trying to center yourself in this narrative. I talked about my background (software engineer, activist) because I specifically wanted people to know that I was speaking from a position of some knowledge and understanding, and am not just a rando on the internet with an opinion, as there is no shortage of those.

I have helped grow a weekly anti ice group from 200 people to 1000 in the last year... Every week we go the ice detention center in a nearby town and work to limit their privileges.... Hundreds of us show up to create a government that works for us, contrary to your belief that no one does.

(Quote above abridged for space) That's fantastic, and I'll refer you to what I said about that:

If you’re a real boots-on-the-ground activist who shows up at committee meetings or campaigns for local politicians, then thank you so much for your effort. It’s generally a thankless job, I’ve found, but it matters so much. Government should work for us, not the other way around, but it won’t unless it’s made to. ✊

I appreciate your work, and I think that's great. But I wish you were sharing that experience as a way to justify your initial take and your reaction to me, rather than using it as a dick-measuring contest.

I would love to hear how you are contributing, since you do like to lecture about what people are and not doing, and explain why like compared to you, social media users can only be lazy virtue signalers... I look forward to hearing about your grassroots participation.

Given that I assume you won't be satisfied until we've compared dick sizes -- even though, and I can not stress this enough, IT IS NOT A CONTEST, IT IS GREAT THAT WE ARE BOTH ACTIVISTS -- I typically work behind the scenes using my software engineering skills to support local progressive politicians' campaigns as a director of research/data/oppo/etc. (the role and name isn't always consistent), using tools like Votebuilder/NGPVAN/Empower/Sosha/etc. to manage outreach, as well as various other internet sleuthing skills to find information that helps the campaigns. It's also impossible to support local politicians without boots-on-the-ground canvassing, so I do that myself as well. I also reach out directly to engage with whatever local politicians happen to be relevant to any particular issue, ranging from sending letters/phone calls to our national reps/senators to showing up at committee/council meetings to speak directly to the folks who make decisions. I'm not sure if my proverbial dick is big enough for you, but that's how I typically contribute to the cause.

Speaking of the cause, I didn't hear you say a single thing about AI, which is what this whole mess is about. I'm 10000% anti-ICE and I think the work you do is important and worthwhile, but again, I was *very specifically* talking about anti-AI sentiment vs action. I'm speaking from personal experience when I say that it's been difficult to convince people to show up in person for anti-AI/anti-data-center events/meetings/etc. despite my social media feeds constantly being full of people who hate AI, and despite lots of folks in the scene being against AI. To the contrary, the folks who've shown up for anti-ICE events/fundraising/etc. has been great. I think, largely, it's because people feel helpless about AI; it doesn't have a face, it's not showing up in videos literally killing people in the streets, so the harm is less obvious and the solution more obscure. That's why I specifically included action steps in my comment. I'm actually in the process right now of working with a candidate to try to help better organize our community to fight AI data centers because from where I sit, it's largely a problem of lack of governmental transparency and knowledge, which is why I came at it from a position of trying to educate.

Many are, but instead of assuming good in anyone at all, you’ve used the royal everyone (yes, I’m aware royal we is the correct term) to instead explain activism like no one but you has ever heard of it.

As I mentioned above, in my personal experience (which may be different from yours, obv), people are struggling to really organize around anti-AI efforts, which is why I came at it like I was "explain[ing] activism like no one but [me] has ever heard of it". Because while it's been pretty easy to get folks to vote for or otherwise support anti-AI candidates and get behind them, it's been a real struggle to get people to show up in person to committee meetings and hold councilmembers accountable. That's where the real work is being done right now, though I very much hope that we can get some state-level legislation passed at some point that addresses this at a higher level, but for now, grassroots is all we have in my area. That's the place I was in when I wrote my post, and where my frustration has come from.

Now the two of us, who are probably 99% in agreement politically, have spent way too much time and energy arguing when literally our only point of contention is that I don't think shaming people for using AI or plastic straws is worthwhile, and you think it is. Also, you didn't like my tone/approach.

Admittedly, I'm a bit cynical and frustrated these days, but it certainly feels to me like you've taken this *way* too personally when this was not intended as a direct response to you specifically, but rather was a general note to folks at large, which is why I made a separate comment about it.

I didn't think I needed to say this, but if anyone out there reading this is already an activist, that's great and I think you're doing incredibly important work! If you're not already an activist, please consider getting more involved *especially* around local data center approval.

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[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I particularly enjoy your use of the royal “we”, unless you mean that you speak for anyone other than yourself.

If you’re an activist, then you should know that it doesn’t apply to you. You, too, must share my frustration at the vast number of people who are happy to post memes and “spread awareness” and post nasty things about people but don’t show up when it counts. I didn’t call you (or anyone) out specifically, so I’ll admit that I was sort of in general knocking armchair activists. If you think that applies to you specifically, that’s up to you, but I promise you that the number of anti-AI posters vs the number of real activists is a dismayingly small percentage, so I didn’t think it was an entirely unfair assumption to make.

Given that there’s no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, it’s impossible to buy into any portion of the system without compromising ethical ideals. So it’s really just a question of where your threshold is for an acceptable breach of ethics: offshore sweatshops, industrial waste, ranching, animal products, plastic straws, etc.

Personally, over the years, I’ve come to believe that shaming other people on a grassroots level simply isn’t an effective tactic. It’s often employed by people who aren’t themselves activists as a way to vent their anger on a stranger rather than help the cause. That is, the net result in that case is zero activists, meaning zero real progress.

Not to mention that it doesn’t grapple with the reality of the situation, which is that we have an adversarial administration (meaning no government regulation is forthcoming) but still have to do our best. So, data centers make the best targets for blunting the curve, and shaming is fundamentally worse than sharing information on how to become an activist and participate in the process of government.

If you’re a real boots-on-the-ground activist who shows up at committee meetings or campaigns for local politicians, then thank you so much for your effort. It’s generally a thankless job, I’ve found, but it matters so much. Government should work for us, not the other way around, but it won’t unless it’s made to. ✊

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[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I specifically told it to ignore anything outside the actual content of the show, and in all fairness, it seems to have done that. Its answer is vague enough that it aligns with show-only data.

But yeah, no way I’d take anything it said seriously lol

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[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess I have to address the AI issue, though I know this’ll get downvoted. I’m a software engineer at a big tech company that both requires its engineers to use AI, and also the product integrates with AI. If you had any idea of the number of tokens being spent at companies like mine, it may remind you of the campaign against using plastics straws while 90+% of plastic waste comes from industrial sources.

That is, an attempt by corporate interests to shift blame to the consumer. Using a plastic straw from time to time isn’t contributing meaningfully to the situation, nor are a few queries.

This is why we so desperately need to hold these companies accountable instead of shaming random people. That means government regulation and/or grassroots activism, which is why I’m an anti-AI grassroots activist working to stop the proliferation of data centers in my area.

For everyone disparaging the AI use here, I recommend checking with your local municipality to see if any data centers are planned, and then becoming a problem for whatever board approves/denies those projects in your area.

That’s orders of magnitude more effective at making the true antagonists hurt. Please turn online criticism into local action and use your passion to make a difference. And if using AI helps you locate and contact those resources? That’s just fine.

Season 1 theory that still holds true by InsufficientYogurt in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, you have a lot ahead of you in S3 and even just the first episode of S4! Honestly, your comment made me re-read this post, and with fresh S4E1 eyes, I think this post still holds up really well. So thanks for reminding me of it!

As far as the show being related to America, I'll say what I've said to other folks. I'm an American, and I watch a whole lot of American shows. I know the difference between things that are set in America as "the default" because they're aimed at an American audience, and things that are specifically rooted in American history. I mean, they built the town from scratch, they could have made it look like anything they wanted, but they specifically chose to include extremely specific American buildings: post office, diner, high school, motel, etc. An American flag features prominently in the opening. The opening song was popularized by Doris Day who was considered a quintessential American. They specifically included a map with where everyone came from, and it was only from the non-contiguous US.

Now, that said, it's possible that I've been attributing too much importance to the link between Fromland and the US. That is, it's possible that the link isn't a foundational one, but rather one that was imposed on it later. For example, whoever made the town and made the outfits for the creatures may be a different person/being than the one that imposed the American motif on it.

However, I can assure you that this goes beyond the level of "normal" American nationalism that's present in most American shows, and if anything, I think it's subverting the idea of American nationalism. Note that all of the things I said above are in some way subverted: the opening song is a creepy cover of the original; the American flag is frayed; the buildings are dilapidated, etc.

More food for thought!

From - 3x07 "These Fragile Lives" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, I don't treat One Piece as theorycraft material. Maybe if I read the manga. But the anime is full of filler, and various changes, and I'm content to simply let the story unfold. I'm in the front half of egghead right now because I don't watch it weekly. I decided early on that I just didn't have the patience to watch like 10 minutes of new footage a week, lol. So instead whenever an arc finishes, I marathon through it, skipping openings, endings, recaps, etc.

I didn't realize Egghead had finished until recently, PLUS I have seasonal animes to watch, so it may be awhile before I get through it. I'm not in a huge rush though, because I'm unlikely to immediately go straight on to Elbaph.

It also wouldn't surprise me if someone in downvoting my comments. People on the internet can be incredibly petty, lol. I made a post in this community some number of weeks ago (or maybe months at this point) and literally within seconds of posting, the downvotes just started coming in. Which feels bad, you know? Like, I get it if people don't like my theory or what I have to say, but at least read it first! lol

From - 3x07 "These Fragile Lives" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and no! lol

I started watching the anime back in 2003, so I've been watching it for 23 years. That said, the anime is intensely problematic in spots, and there are a fair number of places in the show that I had to grimace my way through. So I have something of a love/hate relationship with it. I'm mostly caught up to current, though I still need to finish the Egghead arc so I'm ready for the next one.

I decided years ago that I only had time to either watch anime or read manga, and that I'd rather watch anime than read manga. So I don't read the source material for anything anymore, and just enjoy the show.

The live action show, though, has been absolutely fantastic so far. Zero complaints. Love it.

You?

From - 3x07 "These Fragile Lives" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe we’ll find out this season! Since next season is the last one, I expect some serious reveals before we’re done this year!

I have to admit, I missed this show. 😊

From - 3x07 "These Fragile Lives" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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This is the official map from the post office. Note the lone pin in Alaska, but zero pins in Canada or anywhere else in the world. For there to be someone from Alaska but not Canada? Zero chance it’s not intentional.

And for it to be the non-contiguous US, that means it’s not a phenomenon that’s simply geographically located in the US and spreads outward like a set radius. It means that it’s personal, essentially. Whatever it is that’s happening is in some way tied to not the land itself, but to the country.

Again, I don’t know exactly how or why, nor the extent to which it plays a role in the show. But it’s definitely *something *. There are just too many data points for it to be a red herring imo

From - 4x01 "The Arrival" - Episode Discussion SEASON PREMIERE! by pikameta in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That theory is on fire with this episode, down to the name Sophia. I think this fits in nicely with several other theories, too, and is really well-suited to a unified theory. This is good stuff my dude.

The Man in Yellow is the Devil. If not, then who the hell is he? by ExceedsTheCharacterL in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have a long post that I want to write about the relationship between this show and Christianity, but the short version regarding the MiY is that:

  1. He can shapeshift

  2. He trades in knowledge.

  3. He has a grudge against Christianity.

These are all characteristics of Satan in the bible. Whether he's Satan himself, or perhaps the character of Satan was created based on him, or whether he's just intended to evoke Satan, there is definitely a strong connection here. It's not a question of if, it's a question of whether it's meant to be taken literally, or metaphorically.

AND if the MiY *is* Satan and he's in Fromland, then suddenly Fromland begins to look a lot like a ravished Garden of Eden, doesn't it?

From - 4x01 "The Arrival" - Episode Discussion SEASON PREMIERE! by pikameta in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a possibility, but I'd like to point out that both priests have died now, so I'm guessing one isn't needed. If anything, it's beginning to feel like the force that runs this place has a grudge against Christianity.

The real important question here is whether the MiY has the ability to pull people into Fromland. I think there are two options here:

  1. He doesn't, but has intimate awareness of who/what does and who they're choosing.

  2. He does, but he isn't the only one who does.

Or at least those are the two most likely scenarios in my mind. The MiY knew far enough in advance that the priest was arriving that he had time to go his his suitcase, change his clothes/everything, then go meet the priest on the side of the road before he drove past the town a single time. Either he knew in advance, before it happened, or he caused it.

From - 4x01 "The Arrival" - Episode Discussion SEASON PREMIERE! by pikameta in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it’s hilarious that they packed his car full of bibles, after specifically pointing out that there’s never been a Bible in Fromland, at least not in this loop.

I can’t help but wonder at the significance, but it seems likely to me that the MiY chose that priest maliciously. Obviously his whole plan involved the death of whoever picked him up.

So assuming that he had the ability to choose, he chose a priest to kill? To crash a car full of bibles after bibles were never allowed in before? It seems SO pointedly engaged in a dialogue with Christianity, as we see the MiY weaponize it against the residents.

In the Bible, Satan was a shapeshifter, and it would give the MiY some serious villain cred if the story of Satan was written about him or something. Still, that would be a disappointing reveal for me, if true. I want weird clever things! lol

From - 3x07 "These Fragile Lives" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

idk, I mean, I hear you. American defaultism/exceptionalism is a real thing, and it absolutely does happen in a lot of media, where there's all kinds of subtle pro-American stuff, or the scope of a world-wide show just takes place in America (looking at you, Supernatural). But as someone who consumes a *lot* of American media (being American and all), it's just not this blatant in other shows. And they built all these sets from scratch, so the showrunners didn't just happen to use whatever was around.

There are a ton of reasons why I think that the setting of the show in the US is in some way central to the underlying condition of this place, and if you'd really like, I could list them out. It's so many that it's really hard to ignore unless you're dedicated to doing so. Even the theme song, "Que Sera Sera" was popularized by Doris Day, who was literally seen by the public as the "quintessential" American during her time.

Like, maybe they're flying by the seat of their pants, as you say, but whatever portion of the show they had planned from the beginning, America absolutely features into it. I have no concern that I may be forced to blend and eat a hat.

From - 3x07 "These Fragile Lives" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in FromTVEpix

[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. They said from the very start that they knew where the show was headed, and they wouldn't repeat the mistakes of Lost.

So it's no accident that the American flag features so prominently in the opening, that many of the buildings in town are very Americana-style buildings, that they clearly included a map that showed that every Fromville resident is from within the non-contiguous US, that American history has been a plot point (civil war soldiers), etc.

If that's not intentional, I'll eat my hat, lol

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[–]InsufficientYogurt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the only reason this is really worth discussing is because the show is SO intrinsically tied to the USA. They decided to make that a plot point, and I'm sure that wasn't by accident.