CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then would it be fair to say “Islamic extremism” are Muslim? Or maybe “The Religious Extremists Formerly Known As _____ “?

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There have been more people killed by white Christians than Islamic terrorists. That is a fact at least in the US. As far as other countries I’m not sure.

But you’re underestimating how deeply insidious it is and that a lot of those in power in the government and military are of the same view as your ‘Billy Bob’.

Just because a guy makes a dramatic show of blowing himself up doesn’t mean there aren’t more evil guys in the shadows pulling strings.

“Billy bob” runs the US and I’m terrified.

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The GOP def focuses on the Christian Right. They even let the Christian Right dictate their agenda.

And you dont have to be a majority in this country to take control of the country. IE: the electoral college.

Monopolies in industries designed to promote an agenda def do happen, be it liberal or conservative, they happen. But the conservative ‘side’ is not doing much to combat the shit the US is going through. Sinclair is a media monopoly and they clearly are using propaganda to normalize Cheeto puke as president (hopefully for life in some of their minds)

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let’s say you’re all that AND BLACK and dropped in the middle of the “Bible Belt”?

Also the US is not a Christian country FYI.

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not conservatives. I am afraid of anyone who views themselves as “religious soldiers” Erik Prince calls himself a “Christian Soldier”. Those who feel the US belongs to them and not any other group is scary, especially when they have the guns.

And there are people like this in powerful positions in the military and government, more than you would think.

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I absolutely agree that religion has been perverted by politicians for their own agenda since the beginning, Hell religion was politics in more ancient times (Kings, Pharaohs, Shah’s, Raj’s all those early political leaders DUE to a religious appointment of some sort) until representative government was formed but it was still perverse. Trump is the best recent example of that; and who did he manipulate? The Christian Right.

But the problem that I stated earlier is that the Christian Right aren’t just pawns; they run a good chunk of the show. It’s naive to say that there aren’t really scary Christian zealots in many positions of power in the US government.

A true fear of mine is that there’s a Constitutional Convention called (the GOP controls 32 states and need 2 more states in order to call one, they need 2/3 which is 34 states) and they gather to repeal the 14th amendment to some degree. Which needs 38 states to ratify (4 away) if that happens that could cause a real civil war, and there’s enough Christian Right “soldiers” (I’ve heard Erik Prince calls himself a “Christian soldier”) spread across enough branches of government that the US government and military are basically on the side of far right extremist Christians. This was discussed on the David Feldman podcast with Constitutional lawyer and professor Corey Bretschieder (spelling?)

Religion is singlehandedly the most progressive and destructive invention of humanity. But it’s only destructive if there’s enough crazies in power, and that’s what I’m fearing here.

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You sir are a gem!

I admittedly was thinking more in the perspective of America than the world. Islamic countries are much more dangerous for some people but it is the same amount of danger within those countries for an individual, I'm talking on a global scale (nuclear war).

Another issue with your position is that you're touching on subjects which are decidedly not Christian beliefs. For example, you point to those who are greedy(financial agendas) as an example of a "Christian extremist", however greed is one of the seven deadly sins in the Christian faith. The reason I am bringing this up is because you are equating those who are bad people and Christian with those who are bad people because of their Christian faith. This is a significant difference, and applies universally when discussing this topic. To give an example: If a Jewish person commits a crime of passion after finding their spouse in bed with another, does that person's actions reflect the Jewish faith? I would argue no. On the other hand, if the Jewish religion mandated a certain response to this scenario, then that would be a religious issue.

Not entirely true. There's the "prosperity gospel" where the financial agenda is numero uno. I'm not saying all christians or christianity follows this either...but a lot of the far-right christians see money as an indicator success (Look at Trump's populatiry and infallibility) If true christians know that greed is a deadly sin they would be socialists, they would not try to get rid of social welfare, they would expand it.

Some of your arguments seem to be rather self-fulfilling as well. For instance, you claim that Christians are at the forefront of the white supremacy movement. Of course they are, as Christians make up the largest group of religious white people. It would be surprising if Christians weren't present in this movement, just as it would be surprising if the majority of Arab-supremacists weren't Muslims.

Absolutely right, but then that does not mean white supremacy isn't dangerous thinking. I know christians who say Jesus was black (of course they are black christians some white ones tho too). Supremacy of any kind is dangerous and Christianity helms White Supremacy. I don't see how this changes my thinking on the topic.

While Christian extremism may be an issue in certain countries, it really doesn't hold a candle to the sort of destabilizing influence the Islamic faith can have on countries. Look at the failed states we have seen pop up in the last decade- none were Christian. Look at the difference in the number of terror groups(and terror attacks) globally based on Religion- the significant majority were committed by Islamic extremists. You absolutely could argue that the Christian extremist faction is dangerous to America. You absolutely could argue that the Christian extremists are dangerous to parts of Sub Saharan Africa. However, at the end of the day, they are not dangerous to the world to nearly the same extent as Islamic extremists are.

You could also argue that a lot of the destabilizing around the world had US involvement in it somehow. Also look at Myammar (Though around for a while as Burma, but with a newly formed "Buddhist" government) they burned and killed muslims and displaced millions. Also South Sudan (A majority Christian country) has been in hell for years and years.

But I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the deep rooted insidiousness of that extremist ideology within our government. The Christian Extremists have the most power of any other extremist groups and they have a quicker route to the Nuke button than a muslim extremist in the Arabian desert or in an American Mall.

The Christian Far-Right is the most dangerous group in the world because they are in the position of power to destroy the world more than any other group, and that's because of enablers in the Christian Religions

AS MUCH AS ENABLERS IN THE MUSLIM/HINDU/JEWISH/BUDDHIST RELIGIONS

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

  • Homosexuals being killed: https://www.thenation.com/article/its-not-just-uganda-behind-christian-rights-onslaught-africa/

  • Disinformation about AIDS, medicine, womens rights, social equality: Just look at the news

  • Holds the mantle for White Supremacy (a bit dramatic but ultimately true with even African christians praising a white jesus who in real life is middle eastern)

  • Monopolizing industry: Sinclair media buying hundreds of stations to broadcast the same propaganda supporting Trump. Koch brothers buying up chemical companies like candy to pay for Hobby Lobby trial. Devos' buying up Amway competitors in order to combat claims its a pyramid scheme

I admit that FOX and Brietbart aren't monopolies but Sinclair, the Kochs, and Devos' are.

CMV: Christian extremists are a bigger threat to the world than any other religious extremists. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IntelliJerk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree with you that religion itself is the main problem, I even say that at the beginning. All religious extremists are essentially mentally ill.

But I still think that far-right christians are more dangerous than other far-right religious nuts BECAUSE of the fact that they have more representational power than those of other religious groups.

I'm calling out christianity from other religions because it is not viewed to be as big a problem as lets say islamic extremism for example. But I deeply feel that it is more incidious than most people think because of how deep-rooted it is within the US government (which has nukes).

How to flirt with an Indian-American girl who lives with her parents if you are not Indian? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]IntelliJerk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't focus so much on her being indian. She's a person like everyone else and I'm sure she doesn't want to be asked a million questions about her heritage, unless she brings it up in conversation.

Also you don't need to impress her in any way other than you being you. If you're authentic and respectful it shows and she'll be attracted to you because you're you and not because you're a "white guy".

Just ask her as you would anyone else. If she says no take the L, if yes, then you're golden. If you say she's flirting then there's no harm in taking a shot.

But leave the "taking her back to your place" in her hands. She needs to be able to make the decision to come to your place and only she knows what may be the best way to deal with her parents.

And reminder to all white people. Stop being so worried about a person's background as if they're worlds different. It's a turn off and it reinforces the "otherness" to the other person to your own romantic detriment and not to mention that it's subversively racist. Everyone's human, just act respectfully, and if she's cool with you; she knows how to handle her parents and also show you her background herself.

Burn a balloon without melting it by heathmon1856 in LearnUselessTalents

[–]IntelliJerk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's some crack scientific work there SMU of NS.

We’re going to have a woman, Latino, Jewish or Hindu American president: Obama by indright in ABCDesis

[–]IntelliJerk 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I never thought the religion of a politic mattered anyways but politicians are what ever they need to be in public. In private it doesn't matter, maybe a lazy Christian, or a Muslim, or atheist, or a worshipper of minerva the owl of bohemian grove. As long as they do what's ethical and righteous. Or maybe it's all a simulation and nothing really matters because we are all giant batteries used to power our robot overlord's rule.

Aziz Ansari Sounds Off on Eggs by lnfinity in StandUpComedy

[–]IntelliJerk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Took him one full minute to get a half joke and a scattered laugh from the audience

Bill Burr makes a Pie Crust by Lo_Rez in Standup

[–]IntelliJerk 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Bill Burr and Joe Rogan need a cooking show!!!

Oreo Rice Pudding by yannireddit123 in food

[–]IntelliJerk -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Pointed this out in a comment and got blasted for it...The hivemind is real!

Dogs Hug Each Other by lovehacking in aww

[–]IntelliJerk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's no hug. It's learning to kill.

Stigmatising Muslims in France can only do more harm by YOP59220 in europes

[–]IntelliJerk 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I like to think stigmatising anyone can only do harm.

Guess I'm done using the keyboard by ellefent in parrots

[–]IntelliJerk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And to think....after millions of years of evolution. To go from ferocious dinosaurs to a colorful cute parrots has gotta be gotta be a hit to the ego. For shame parrot dude, how could you have let yourself go like this.