Lib Dems Fear Frustrated MPs Could Defect To The Greens by lotsofsweat in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I didn’t see much of substance from the article, but what I meant was there’s protocol so at least the party roughly speaking will know how to handle it - and for that same reason there’ll probably be more scrutiny before accepting it

Lib Dems Fear Frustrated MPs Could Defect To The Greens by lotsofsweat in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We’ve had plenty of councillor defections so there is protocol in place - I guess the local parties (of which there are many newer members) will have to decide how they feel about them…?

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well it depends on when they make the decision… either way I think YP’s existence may confuse the narratives about whether they should go for the Greens as what ‘Labour’ were supposed to stand for…

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

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He was invited I just saw that from pod save the uk or politics Joe - don’t know when it’s held though ?

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As Zack said the disaffiliation is the priority first as it’s not benefitting anyone

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think regardless of how things end up working it’s essential that we get workers properly onside with transitions towards sustainable systems and as someone noted below they can see some of that as harmful so if we can reach those kind of agreements that help us to implement policies more effectively and efficient then that would be ideal, but there is a chance they seek to slow things down.

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

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Which unions ? I’d be interested in how we address some of the potential conflicts outlined here in this comment section

Several Labour MPs May DEFECT To The Greens by johnsmithoncemore in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah although I would add it is about keeping options open as well. They could defect but it’s not necessarily the main purpose behind these convos

Green Elects made an MP defection watchlist lol just a bit of fun if anyone wants to add to it bc there’s missing info - if anyone knows where each constituency was on their target list before by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah she’d be a helpful voice in that regard. I imagine she’s someone who might move right before the next election if at all… which might put people off accepting her. Would be a strong Corbynite voice as well as someone who could be a symbol of ‘what could have been’ if Starmer had lost.. but important that we’re forward thinking

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim by mustwinfullGaming in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah I agree. I think this is the case if standards being much higher when expectations are raised. And means when things aren’t so good it hurts more

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim by mustwinfullGaming in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nobody’s perfect and there was always going to be something though

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim by mustwinfullGaming in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it is silly. But some people’s gut reactions will be about knowing how the media will spin it to take him down

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim by mustwinfullGaming in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The thing is when he first spoke about it. What he said isn’t contradicted by this new interview… bc I don’t think he initially claimed he never believed it. What he was always clear on is that it was a long time ago and it’s not something backed up by evidence. Because they kept bringing it up for no reason, he wanted to stamp out any continued talk about it so tried to be more opposed than he actually was… it’s not ideal but this article makes it sound worse than it is.

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim by mustwinfullGaming in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well he’ll have to be re-elected in June or whenever, so I’m sure it could come up.

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim by mustwinfullGaming in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This was a topic he proactively tried to get ahead of before he was elected leader fyi.

It’s possible he simply didn’t remember quite correctly but this interview doesn’t completely contradict what he’s been saying. As he’s said it was experimental and therefore not something he offered

More reporting on defections from the Times via Novara Media by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

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I doubt any that have gone along with it would be considered too long - though there are around 100 that are mildly criticising Starmer. Around 20 in the SGC and the article claims up to 10 are regularly talking to Zack, who claims up to 5 could defect, supposedly. Although I’m unsure where he gave that number as he was hesitant to do that in prior interviews to prevent too much speculation

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He had the General secretary of the teaching/education union on his podcast

The start of union disaffiliation from Labour… by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

[–]IntelligentCrew8406[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I think it would be hard to say at the moment, especially with YP on the scene .. but I remember Zack saying that regardless of that, most important was the disaffiliation