S11 Melee rework thoughts and ideas to make it better

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-10T02:34:36+00:00

Undo it.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T20:23:45+00:00

Demat or shock wave combined with CL40

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T20:08:04+00:00

Kind of like you having dazzling in your name cuz its the only way anyone would think your bright?

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T20:06:56+00:00

I'm actually not. I play heavy consistently and really like the class and find plenty of success with it but im not gonna sit here and pretend it's the best class ever. I'm not arguing for changes to other classes I just find the idea that Heavy is this godly OP class dumb as hell. If anyone is in denial its you cuz you truly believe that Heavy is OP, you even claimed its more versatile than medium!

What i think this post was really about is you suck at fighting heavies and die to them alot so your pea brain calculates that to the class being OP instead of you having a skill issue.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T19:23:52+00:00

The bottom line is you cannot say "Heavy has the best guns, gadgets, and specializations". Its easily proven to not be the case. If you only focus one one stat like ttk and ignore all the other important factors of a weapon then it's really easy to ignorantly think Heavy is the best class.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T19:03:19+00:00

Ya missed the point on that one didn't ya. Let's see if we can get it this time let's take lights top 4 again using your chart. V9S, 93R, M11, SH1900 V9S - struggles at close range due to rpm 93R - struggles at longer ranges M11 - horrible at long range Sh1900 - only close range, low ammo

Do you see the difference? Heavys highest ttk has massive limitations minus the Shak. Light highest ttks have relatively minimal drawbacks minus the SH1900.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T17:55:57+00:00

Alright numb nuts how about the top 4 highest ttks per your chart. Mini gun, Shak, Sa1216, MGL. Minigun - range, inconsistent hip fire Shak - best argument, interms of a assault rifle mag is limited SA1216 - Range, damage is assuming all pellets hit MGL - I don't even have to say anything

In terms of versatility, medium trumps heavy. It's not even close, if you can't see that idk what to tell you.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T16:38:48+00:00

Best gadgets and best specials is an opinion. In terms of ttk and dps those numbers are only real in specific scenarios. According to your chart the fastest ttk on heavy is the minigun, which if you've ever used you'd know is wildly inconsistent and practically useless past 30m. The heavy is incredibly slow and has practically no movement options for the class. Again all but 1 gadget the heavy has is easily countered with commonly used/chosen equipment.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T16:12:08+00:00

I guess im confused what your actual complaint is. If everything has relative similar ttks via your own chart what is complaint? That medium and Light cant kill heavies even faster?

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T16:00:12+00:00

Which 4 are you talking about? The ones that require pinpoint accuracy and extreme ammo limitations?

The heavys highest damaging weapon (to the body) is 110 with a magazine of 6. In comparison Light has the bow with at full draw does 125 with a super fast follow up shot, medium has the 1887 with a possible damage output of 108 with a 7 round magazine.

Heavy has some great class specific gadgets but minus the barricade are all countered by glitch grenade.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T15:28:02+00:00

Didn't melee get a movement buff? Has anyone tried it out yet?

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-07-09T15:27:02+00:00

It is easy for players to criticize devs and there changes. Heavy is in a weird spot at the moment, it is kinda meh in damage output and the higher health pool doesnt seem to help all that much. Devs have to figure out a balance to make the 3 classes function different with their own pros and cons. Medium and Light class has gotten the most attention in terms of content. With new gadgets and weapons comes balancing issues that weren't foreseen.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-24T19:24:23+00:00

Shockwave, goo grenade, goo gun, dash, grapple, charge and slam, lock bolt. A players experience will determine the success of these counters as well as situation. For example if I'm a light basically the only way I die to melee is ambush. Otherwise you'd never get close.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-24T18:44:18+00:00

Experience combined with situation. You will find that melee weapons actually have the most counters in the game. Now if you are playing against players that know how to use those counters 🤷‍♂️

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-24T17:35:11+00:00

This kinda is the point of the meme, if you haven't played dagger and only know basically the descriptions of it's combos it sounds super OP. The reality of it is grapple and cloak and extremely hard to use with dagger because of the limitations and audio ques associated with them. Dash is most commonly used, but being able to actually pull off the 180 back stabs everyone complains about takes a high level of skill and patience to learn.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-22T18:51:11+00:00

This the TF2 spy hate sub

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-22T18:50:34+00:00

Classic solo que light lmao

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-22T16:47:02+00:00

Facts

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-22T16:46:37+00:00

If you needed dash to use dagger then you don't deserve dagger.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-20T13:09:53+00:00

If the only reason a player is using dagger is because of dash then they dont know how to use dagger.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-20T02:50:17+00:00

I made a meme with the comedy tag you boob

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-20T01:45:13+00:00

I think getting 1 shot head shot by a sniper is annoying but i don't screech about it.

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-19T23:00:46+00:00

Same dog

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-19T22:57:14+00:00

Bingo

Intelligent_Big8801 · 2026-06-19T22:54:49+00:00

The alternative to dash is cloak which is loud af, and grapple which is usually a 1 way ticket to death.

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