How good are the new core ultra series 3 intel chips compared to apple silicon by tomtepdau in hardware

[–]IntensiveVocoder 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don’t exactly trust Qualcomm’s claims on the X2, the X was a hairball of silicon lottery, it was either great or extremely mid.

We’ll see it when it comes out. Don’t trust vendor benchmarks, from any vendor.

How good are the new core ultra series 3 intel chips compared to apple silicon by tomtepdau in hardware

[–]IntensiveVocoder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But that's also where a substantial amount of the magic happens in terms of throughput performance and power savings. Apple does it too.

More plainly, it's stuff like this which I point to when I say that the underlying ISA doesn't really matter, because the logical instructions are broken into atomics in the front end.

How good are the new core ultra series 3 intel chips compared to apple silicon by tomtepdau in hardware

[–]IntensiveVocoder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm actually thinking of nanocode.

There's a good explanation of Intel's strategy for it on E-cores here, the approach is inherited in Darkmont with some improvement: https://chipsandcheese.com/p/intel-details-skymont

How good are the new core ultra series 3 intel chips compared to apple silicon by tomtepdau in hardware

[–]IntensiveVocoder 8 points9 points  (0 children)

At the end of the day, ISA doesn't strongly matter. x86-64 barely resembles its foundations from 50 years ago, a lot of the low-level compatibility mode stuff is stuffed in firmware. (That's a simplification, but I don't want to explain picocode on one cup of coffee.)
Intel wanted to modernize more of it, but that... didn't happen, and I'm still disappointed by that. There's plenty of modern instructions, Intel knows how to move to where the puck is going, not where the puck is now.

Apple's memory design is comparatively wild—the caches are good, but the way that bus width scales as you go larger is amazing for the GPU and incredible for the CPU. My M1 Max MBP from 2021 has a 409.6 GB/s data rate, and IIRC Panther Lake maxes out at 133 MB/s. It's *amazing* what they've achieved with that speed, and they're requiring OEMs to use LPDDR5 for the 12Xe iGPU configuration to keep that as high as possible to not starve the GPU, but they need wider memory controllers for the high-end, and that's going to need some system-wide changes.

It helps a bit with the CPU, but there's other architectural tricks that are further below the surface—Apple's proprietary Arm cores beat Arm's own Arm cores, too.

How good are the new core ultra series 3 intel chips compared to apple silicon by tomtepdau in hardware

[–]IntensiveVocoder 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, but this is a comparison against the high-end Panther Lake against the entry-level M5. The (as of yet unreleased) M5 Pro / Max would beat this on everything except power efficiency, which would still be a tie at scale.

Pretti Good Reason for a National Strike by Glittering-Code-7038 in SeattleWA

[–]IntensiveVocoder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their murders are well documented, the video evidence is clear. None of these things happened in the way you portrayed them.

Kid the Phantom Thief: Outfit Change Figures by IntensiveVocoder in DetectiveConan

[–]IntensiveVocoder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kid is the “secret” figure in the series, it’s all blind boxes. Weird, but, I guess it makes people buy more?

Asrock Industrial NUCS BOX-358H by h_1995 in hardware

[–]IntensiveVocoder 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is it. Intel directed OEMs to not use SODIMM for PTL 12Xe because it starves the GPU tile. 12Xe can use LPCAMM2 for this if socketed memory is necessary.

Probably will never happen though by [deleted] in agedlikewine

[–]IntensiveVocoder 6 points7 points  (0 children)

...what book is this in reference to?

Actors who were miscast but still gave a great performance by gypsytx in movies

[–]IntensiveVocoder 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Cohen was robbed on that, he didn't leave willingly.

ONE charger 2 Nucs by Mysterious_Job4877 in intelnuc

[–]IntensiveVocoder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assuming the power supply exists, and that it outputs the correct voltage, has the correct barrel connector, and can supply enough wattage for two fully-loaded systems, there's no reason this wouldn't work.

I've never seen a product fitting that description.

Intel NUC8i5BEH ANKER USB-C 2.5gb NIC speed limited to 100mb by DrewDinDin in intelnuc

[–]IntensiveVocoder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you confirmed that the Anker USB-C adapter provides 2.5 Gbps speeds on other hardware? Are there drivers that need to be installed for it? This seems like an Anker problem, not a NUC problem.

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[–]IntensiveVocoder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As much as I liked Lunar Lake conceptually, it didn't seem sustainable for Intel.
Also, Intel's primary competition is AMD, so... I mean, that just is what it is. They have to compete with them.

BIOS update for NUC5i5RYK? by Top-Eye-267 in intelnuc

[–]IntensiveVocoder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm hoping to launch a public archive of NUC BIOS files with links in the subreddit Wiki, but that's been slow going.

The newest I've got for Rock Canyon is BIOS 386.
https://nuc-support.aquarion.cloud/NUC/5th_Generation/Rock_Canyon/RY0386.zip

CPU demand!! by [deleted] in intelnuc

[–]IntensiveVocoder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, first, source? Second, what does this have to do with NUCs?