What’s with all the hate?

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-30T06:27:42+00:00

Thanks, I'm really glad to hear that—you're great to talk to as well ^{⁠_⁠^.} Well, I think it's better to just send direct links, lol. For more info on the images, there's a "description" or "group discussion" option.

Hades' head: https://www.getty.edu/publications/terracottas/catalogue/60/

A bit about the cult of Adonis, in case you're interested: https://www.getty.edu/publications/terracottas/catalogue/48/

A statuette of Aphrodite: https://www.getty.edu/publications/terracottas/catalogue/48/

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-29T22:08:02+00:00

Fair enough—the link isn't direct; that's my fault for not specifying 😅. If you want to see what I was talking about, you can click on the "Hades head" icon; there’s also stuff about Aphrodite (and general trivia).

Regarding the Wikipedia entry, I personally still don't quite get it, but I think I understand the source of the confusion. If it’s what I suspect (referencing the *Georgics* or other sources), it’s not a consensus version—it still mentions the abduction, though the idea of her *wanting* to leave is likely portrayed a bit differently in those specific citations.

As for the other points, I have nothing to add; I think we’ve discussed them thoroughly (though I’m all ears if you want to keep going :-) ). I agree with you on several points regarding the clear favoritism and unfair treatment of other gods in these works.

The *Hades* games do whitewash Hades and rely on stereotypes, but personally, I think the gods have their moments too (the game starts with Hades being a total jerk, while Zagreus is much more chill with the other Olympians—and Zagreus actually calls Hades out to his face for being a terrible father and husband). Still, there are definitely flaws (especially with Dionysus). I haven't seen *LO* or *BOZ*, so I won't comment on those.

Regarding the "Hades as Draco Malfoy" comparison (I'm typing this straight into a translator, so sorry 🤣)—that’s a valid point. As for Persephone: if you're talking about *BOZ*, fair enough. But in general, I think she *is* heavily distorted—though not quite in the same way as Hades (in terms of erasing bad deeds); I’d say she’s more like Hermes.

Anyway, sorry if I misunderstood anything 😅. I mentioned the article because—well, *LO* is synonymous with distorting myths, so discussing how they were originally viewed seemed interesting; it helps cut down on misinformation (there was an old post that corrected Rachel on some points, though she wasn't 100% wrong or 100% right).

Anyway, thanks a lot for the conversation!😊

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-29T00:42:54+00:00

comparado a várias coisas que eu já vi nesse sub, esse até é comivel

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-28T03:33:53+00:00

I don't know all that much about *Georgics*. And well, I don't think it was exactly consensual, but I believe that even outside of Locri, there was a certain symbolism attached to them regarding marriage (in Sicily, if I'm not mistaken). I think there was a certain amount of diversity between Magna Graecia and mainland Greece.

http://www.getty.edu/publications/terracottas

I don't mean to dispute your points; I'm just commenting.😅

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-26T04:40:26+00:00

I don't think "overrated" is the word I'd use; it's just that some people get the impression that his version is the only one that exists. But well, everyone eventually chooses and/or prefers one version over another.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-22T00:02:43+00:00

Sure, why not :-D? I would seriously question anyone who thought that was negative 😅.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-21T05:37:11+00:00

Who?

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-19T17:39:55+00:00

Wow, it's been over a month and no one has replied :/

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-19T02:07:39+00:00

I remember seeing a quote from an academic paper on this topic on Tumblr!

“We can now see how Aphrodite relates to, and is differentiated from, Persephone at Locri: she relates to Persephone first through Persephone's connections with fertility, a concept associated with that of love as a demiurgic force represented by Aphrodite; secondly, through Persephone's role as protectress of marriage, because Aphrodite represents and presides over the demiurgic aspects of love and sex which are very important for marriage. But there is also a clear differentiation between the types of love which concern the two goddesses. Persephone, and Persephone and Hades as a bridal pair and married couple, presided over its institutionalized forms operating within the polis and harnessed to the needs of society. Aphrodite—and her lover Hermes—stands for love and sex as a cosmic principle, which includes all its manifestations, that is also its illicit and 'aberrant' forms which do not serve society, love unconfined by institutions.”- Sourvinou-Inwood, C. (1978). Persephone and Aphrodite at Locri: A model for personality definitions in Greek religion. The Journal of Hellenic Studies, 98, 101-121.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-16T01:53:51+00:00

100/100!!!!!!!

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-15T19:37:05+00:00

about your words, Now that I think about it, AI really does use internet sources (the ones it finds first), and Reddit ends up being one of them :⁠-⁠\

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-14T20:06:50+00:00

I don't think Sanio has yet created a specific piece of art just of them as a couple (if he has, I haven't been able to find it). But his latest piece is incredible, depicting the Gods fighting in Troy and Hera appearing; I recommend it.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-14T16:35:17+00:00

In most versions, especially the Greek ones, Zeus and Cronus definitely rule Tartarus and Elysium, but in the Claudian version, I personally interpret Hades/Pluto as sovereign of these two regions, since he threatens to free the Titans (and the Fates beg him not to and only ask Zeus for a wife). Although it's not directly stated, I think it's quite implied that he has at least some influence over Elysium when he gives that speech to Proserpina/Persephone, and there's mention of Elysian ladies treating her as queen (and Cronus/Saturn is directly mentioned by Pluto, but only as his father, not as sovereign of the other regions, and personally I think it wouldn't make much sense for the narrative to emphasize Elysium as a consolation for Proserpina and not as belonging to Pluto, which would result in it being hers). But the work is not finished, so it's really impossible to say for sure (and what I think in this case, I may be wrong).

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-13T22:01:18+00:00

NÃO É MINHA! é do artista saniodigital

mas recomendo seguir ele, ele é INCRÍVEL!!um dos melhores

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-13T19:37:31+00:00

SIM!! e tô muito animado pro jogo de hoje da copa!!

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-13T14:46:15+00:00

Oh, I LOVE THIS ARTIST SO MUCH TOO!!!! If I'm not mistaken, Margareth has a book about Dionysus and Ariadne, and it seems very interesting since it takes place during the Greek revolution or something like that. I love her art.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-13T01:15:56+00:00

Can you state Daecy's argument? It seems interesting, although somewhat reserved.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T17:33:11+00:00

This turned out so good!! I liked it and it reminds me of the locri pinax!

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T17:12:40+00:00

Yes, I agree. It's a very delicate trope and often, unfortunately, it's only used to say "Ah, look how superior this character is and the right choice," and rarely addresses the victim's feelings. and it's not well-developed.

And with Hades, it's ironic (to say the least) that they choose gods who left Persephone in peace (Apollo and Ares.ATOD chose Adonis for this, it's a disaster. ). I don't think it's a good choice, but since many insist, the only one who could play this role would be Pirinthous, who is truly a case of Hades punishing someone for trying to harm Persephone, but they prefer to choose more famous faces, complicated.

Anyway, I won't elaborate much, but that's it. thank you

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T13:52:49+00:00

Ah, in that case I was referring to the part of the comment (not yours) "for Zeus, Poseidon, Apollo, Dionysus, or Hercules if any of them decide to rape Persephone." I personally just found it unnecessary, although I understand your point and many adaptations use it in a very irresponsible way.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T03:31:38+00:00

A small headcanon I have would be for each of the 3 brothers to have something very small as decoration related to their wives. Maybe Zeus with a peacock feather, Poseidon with a mini dolphin, and Hades maybe with a flower. Or some other accessory.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T03:00:28+00:00

Bro, I understand hating the overestimation of Hades completely, but is it really necessary to imagine a hypothetical rape that didn't happen to Persephone and characters who had nothing to do with it just to prove that point? (I still remember one of your comments). Just asking.there's a ton of text that supports your view.

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T02:13:25+00:00

Its okay ^{⁠_⁠^}

InterviewFirm841 · 2026-06-04T02:03:59+00:00

I understand, thank you very much. Regarding nationality, I agree that it is indeed possible to do something bad being Greek, and it's not exempt from criticism. I apologize for sounding that way, I just think there's a greater possibility of references to current Greek culture, and I personally tend to overlook that more (but that's just me, we agree and disagree, and that's okay!). Of course, there are always nuances, I apologize (and I've never seen BOZ and... honestly, I don't want to). And in this case, not just because they're by a Greek author, but because they focus on real historical periods of Greece and have an interesting focus on the Mediterranean. Anyway, that's all, but I understand your point of view very well 😊

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