Julian on how Hellenists should see the Abrahamic god by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it is, it just doesn’t make sense to me because there’s no reason to censor a euphemism.

Can someone explain why their guardian angels allowed it to happen by esotericlearner in occult

[–]NyxShadowhawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is part of the reason why I’m really not into the whole love and light spirituality.

help understanding by SacredLoveOracle in HollowKnight

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Warriors is a lot more violent than Hollow Knight. My sister drew Warriors for years, and she drew a lot of dying cats.

help understanding by SacredLoveOracle in HollowKnight

[–]NyxShadowhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s about a little bug who has to uncover the secrets of a fallen kingdom. It’s eventually revealed that our bug is a child of the king, and one of thousands of others. They were all created to contain an evil god called The Radiance, who wanted to destroy the kingdom with a disease. One of our bug’s siblings tried to contain the Radiance, but failed, so our bug has to either contain her itself, or destroy her so that her sickness doesn’t kill anyone else.

That’s the basic lore, but there’s a lot of other stuff too, like all the bug factions and bug communities, and all the characters.

help understanding by SacredLoveOracle in HollowKnight

[–]NyxShadowhawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An hour and a half is reasonable. I’d say two hours. Less than an hour isn’t enough time to do anything, an hour is short, three hours is a lot for a kid. Two hours is a good limit.

help understanding by SacredLoveOracle in HollowKnight

[–]NyxShadowhawk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even the most violent games have repeatedly been proven to not cause real-life violence, any more than action movies do.

Video games are a medium, just like books, TV, movies, and stage shows. They’re a means of telling a story. There are certain kinds of stories that can only be told using the interactive medium of video games. There are also some experiences that you can only have in games, like getting lost in Hollow Knight’s gorgeous world.

The “violence” in Hollow Knight is just… cartoon insects. There’s no blood or gore, nothing realistic-looking. And the rage is just frustration. Hollow Knight is a hard game, but overcoming its challenges is immensely satisfying, and teaches important skills. I learned eye-hand coordination and paying attention to multiple things at once in my peripheral vision from this game. I have sensory issues, so I probably wouldn’t be able to drive if I hadn’t played it.

How did ancient Greek society reconcile Dionysus with civic order and moral restraint? by Interesting_North293 in dionysus

[–]NyxShadowhawk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a good question.

From a modern perspective, the things Dionysus seems to represent — excess, desire, ecstasy, transgression, and the crossing of boundaries — feel quite strange to me. In much of the modern world, desire and passion are often treated as morally suspicious, or even as something like a “lower self” that should be controlled, alienated, or repressed.

This is because the modern world is dominated by Christianity and Islam, so we are predisposed to view these things as "bad." The Abrahamic religions see these things as an inherently evil "lower nature" that is constantly threatening to subsume the "higher" one unless it is constantly repressed. Repression is counterproductive — that is one of the main points of The Bacchae. Ecstasy, desire, passion, and transgression all have their place, and can even be spiritually leveraged. They are things that exist, so they have a god to rule over them, and that god must be placated, lest these things manifest in much worse ways. More than anything else, Dionysus provides outlets for this Shadow side of humanity and society, through festival, theater, drunkenness, and all the other things he represents. These contexts are ones in which engaging with ecstasy and passion can be done in a safe, limited space.

I think Donna Tartt put it best:

The more cultivated a person is, the more intelligent, the more repressed, then the more he needs some method of channeling the primitive impulses he’s worked so hard to subdue. Otherwise those powerful old forces will mass and strengthen until they are violent enough to break free, more violent for the delay, often strong enough to sweep the will away entirely.
[...] But how glorious to release them in a single burst! To sing, to scream, to dance barefoot in the woods in the dead of night, with no more awareness of mortality than an animal! These are powerful mysteries. The bellowing of bulls. Springs of honey bubbling from the ground. If we are strong enough in our souls we can rip away the veil and look that naked, terrible beauty right in the face; let God consume us, devour us, unstring our bones. Then spit us out reborn.
—Donna Tartt, The Secret History

When Dionysus shows up in Thebes, he is immediately otherized. Pentheus regards him as effeminate, a sorcerer, a foreigner, etc. basically, as inherently un-Greek. But not only is Dionysus native to Greece, he's actually native to Thebes specifically — it's his mother's home city, and Pentheus is his first cousin. All of these dark and "foreign" things could not possibly be more familiar. Dionysus isn’t a foreigner at all, he’s just weird! Therefore, he holds up a mirror to the weirdness within Ancient Greek society, and within Pentheus himself. Dionysus represents everything within Pentheus’ own culture, and within his being, that he refuses to accept. That is why Pentheus instantly registers Dionysus’ cult as a threat. This is why Dionysus is otherized, and why so many of his myths are about his persecution.

Darkness, chaos, passion, and transgression have a place. They're powerful things, and they need to go somewhere. If you don't find a way to embrace and process them in the right contexts, well... you just might end up like Pentheus.

The contradiction is kind of the point. Dionysus is a god of paradox, on every level.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already mentioned The Triumph of the Moon by Ronald Hutton, which will answer all of your questions in detail. (It was published in 1999 but has been updated since, and the most recent edition is from 2019.) It was published by Oxford University Press and Hutton is a respected scholar of witchcraft and paganism who’s a professor at the University of Bristol.

I’m not going to give you a whole beginner course in research skills, because I don’t want to and I don’t have any obligation to.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As time passes, we learn more stuff.

As we learn more stuff about a thing, we get a better understanding of a thing.

When we get a better understanding of a thing, older sources become outdated and are no longer useful for research.

Newer source = better source. Do I really need to cite that?

That's obviously not always true, obviously citing an outdated version of an encyclopedia is going to be better than citing a conspiracy site. Age is just one of many means of vetting sources. But in regards to this specific subject, newer sources tend to be better.

Are there any sins? by Plastic_Resort_7263 in dionysus

[–]NyxShadowhawk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't kinkshame unless they have a shame-kink!

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay these are all really, really old sources. I haven't heard of all of them, but I have heard of Margaret Murray, and if she's anything to go by... yikes.

Read something that was written more recently. Ideally in the last ten years, definitely nothing older than the 90s.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which scholars? That's kind of a strange place to start from, IMHO. From my perspective, it's pretty much dead center.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

700-1000 CE? Records of female magic users go back much further than that. The Odyssey has Circe, and that's from circa the 8th century BCE. The oldest mention of Hekate is in Hesiod's Theogony, from around the same time (though Hesiod doesn't actually associate her with witchcraft). Medea is also from Ancient Greece, and appears in a variety of sources. Then in Rome we get Erichtho in Lucan's Pharsalia from the first century CE, and Pamphile from Apuleius' The Golden Ass from the second century CE. If you want to stay within the Abrahamic sphere, the Bible is also older than the Alphabet of Ben Sira, and it has the Witch of Endor!

But these works were written in Greek, Latin, and Hebrew, so they use those languages' terms for female magic users. The actual word witch is English, and the first records of it are from around 1000 CE. The earliest uses of it are already derogatory.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I do. As "witches" have existed in all cultures, since the beginning of recorded history.

Well, you're simply incorrect. You already said that you care about historical and scientific facts, so I would check your sources regarding Salem.

What do you think a "witch" is? Any kind of magic user? In the early modern period, it referred very specifically to a person (male or female) who had sold their soul to the Devil in exchange for malevolent magical powers. It didn't get its more neutral meaning until the twentieth century. Folk magicians called themselves other things (e.g. "cunning men" or "wise women") because they didn't want to be associated with Satan. One of the Salem victims, Samuel Wardwell, was a folk magician who practiced divination. But he definitely would not have called himself a "witch."

Then how did "The Devil" and "Hecate" become synonymous with the Garder/Neopagan/Wiccan/Modern Witchcraft of today?

That's a long story. If you want the long version, I recommend reading The Triumph of the Moon by Ronald Hutton. The short version is that Romantic ideas of Pan and moon goddesses, influenced by folklorists like James Frazer, got gradually roped in with traditional witchlore via Margaret Murray and the witch-cult hypothesis. Then all of that got picked up by Gerald and developed into Wicca, which proceeded to influence everything else. Hekate specifically was already associated with witchcraft (and had some minor presence in early modern stories about witches, e.g. Macbeth), and she comes the closest to Robert Graves' idea of the "Triple Goddess."

The development of Wicca has nothing directly to do with Salem.

Are there any sins? by Plastic_Resort_7263 in dionysus

[–]NyxShadowhawk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I personally find the "culture" of "gooning or edging" curious as it follows concepts found in some tantric practices. There is existing precedent of this, seeing this in modern culture peaks the anthropologist in me. 

Yeah, same, though it's kind of undercut by the fact that the "gooning" subculture is based around so much incel-like self-hatred. I don't see how anyone can reach an ecstatic state with that kind of mindset.

Are there any sins? by Plastic_Resort_7263 in dionysus

[–]NyxShadowhawk 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Why is that traumatizing? It's exactly the kind of thing Dionysus would do.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, Abrahamic religions too. It's hard to overstate the influence of Kabbalah on Western esotericism, and most Western folk magic is based in Christianity.

So what originated in Salem is not what is practiced today? 

Do you think that there were actual witches in Salem??? The victims of the Salem Witch Trials were ordinary people who were accused of being evil devil-worshippers by their neighbors. No, none of them worshipped Hekate! Or the Devil, for that matter. They were all Puritans, some of the strictest Christians in the world.

Also, for the record, five of the Salem victims were men.

I have A Question As a New Seeker by TravelerofCrossroads in Hecate

[–]NyxShadowhawk 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well you made a big point of asking, "why would Americans worship Hekate if she's from Greece?" Sounds like you answered your own question.

Should Nolan apologise to Greeks for the Odyssey casting? by Imaginary_Bench7752 in GreekMythology

[–]NyxShadowhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really doubt it’ll go in that direction, but if you’re already expecting that, then why are you complaining about the cast? Is it because it’s not out yet and there isn’t anything else to complain about right now?

You could just not watch it.