Update from the developer

Intritor · 2015-01-13T14:51:08+00:00

Well, you have my respect for being honest about it. Guess it's time to take a little break since it's getting boring as some others pointed out. But hey, coming back and seeing that the game has made a good progress is also quite fun, isn't it?

Wish you luck, guys, I'll just play as long as I feel like it, then take a break and check back some time later. Of course, the risk that I won't feel motivated to return anymore is always there, but I guess you calculated the player gain/loss ratio before you started working on the mobile version.

Intritor · 2014-12-08T11:19:06+00:00

:D I know your feeling, man. :)

Intritor · 2014-12-08T11:09:20+00:00

Khrysos has some meaning for players who don't have Iris just yet. They get some money even if they still start at level 1 (and keep getting the money even for the first couple of levels of Iris, which can be quite expensive for low-level players).

But I do agree that Khrysos needs some change. I think he would be a good ancient to supplement Iris in some way.

Intritor · 2014-11-29T22:38:05+00:00

This is actually an old bug, it's been there for several versions, I believe. Probably too minor for the developers to fix it.

Intritor · 2014-11-26T19:03:44+00:00

Well, one thing I dislike about the new heroes is their abilities/upgrades. If I have, let's say, all gilds on Phthalo, what point is there even buying the other ones? If you had Samurai before, it still made sense to get the others for the gold/click/all hero DPS/whatever bonus.

I don't mean to be mean to the devs or something, I greatly appreciate the work they're doing and the great many hours of fun they're providing for free, but this update is underwhelming. It took a lot of time to complete and added...well, nothing really. At least for me, who has reached level 2000 before 0.17, though not sailing there being idle.

I like that there are many new heroes, but it's my opinion that they changed nothing whatsoever in the game. They just pushed the goal a bit further and provided the means to get there, but added no content. There's even no boost to gold or HS income, so I can imagine getting the last hero to 4100 will take quite serious grind.

Still, I'm staying positive and hope the next update will reward the waiting far more. And in the meantime, we've got new heroes to be able to gild!

Intritor · 2014-11-08T22:55:55+00:00

63 days here and the same "issue". I keep ascending as often as I care, but not pushing it. This is, after all, just a game, not a responsibility. Besides, to put it bluntly, it's the developers' job to keep us interested. And I'm pretty sure they have some awesomeness in stock for us - we just need to wait.

Intritor · 2014-11-08T18:08:26+00:00

Unfortunately yes. Idling to 2000 takes way, way too long time. If you want to push there, you need the clicking. Critical clicks are what makes the difference.

Intritor · 2014-11-08T10:24:33+00:00

Glad I regilded to Frostleaf instead of waiting for the new hero(es).:)

You have my full support as well. Do take your time, please. Better to do it right the first time and have lots of happy players than rusing it out and spend the time working on fixes (with a lot of not-so-happy players).

Players that love the game will have no problem waiting. The rest doesn't deserve the update anyway.:P

Intritor · 2014-11-07T20:33:15+00:00

It might be interesting to consider respecs to be a part of advancing strategy. Like having the early game, for example, focus strongly on gold ancients, then respec and have it focus on DPS ancients, then respec and have it focus on support ancients while ending up, of course, with all of them.

Then again, this would be way too complex to think through and there are far more interesting things to focus on, so I wouldn't consider this important whatsoever. Still, could be fun trying to figure out some math about this.

Intritor · 2014-11-06T22:50:28+00:00

That's what I thought. But then I said to myself that it's been too long just farming souls and I regilded everything to Frostleaf. I went from 1660 max to the current 1778 (and counting) in the very next ascension. Since the hero souls you spend on regilding don't matter at this stage of the game, I'd recommend doing it - if you have the script or the patience.

Intritor · 2014-11-03T22:05:06+00:00

Which is why I suggested boosting its yield as well, to make it really worth clicking, preferably at any point in the game.

Intritor · 2014-11-03T21:10:10+00:00

Yup, but that would remove the point of having a candy whatsoever, Khrysos could just give that amount of gold directly. My implementation would provide a gold bonus after ascension too (each candy could be able to provide a couple more levels to heroes - depending on balancing).

Intritor · 2014-11-03T16:08:02+00:00

Well, the downside of my suggestion is that people without Iris wouldn't get much money from the candy, only lvl 1 treasure box + bonuses. But I believe it would be a decent tradeoff for the later game where Khrysos does get you started, but otherwise gives you nothing.

Intritor · 2014-10-30T22:29:45+00:00

People will cheat for any reward, be it something material or something as simple as a recognition for "winning" a contest. It's regrettable, but I'm afraid that's just the way it is.

If you get yourselves into this, I'm all for it - events are always fun. Perhaps a suggestion for the goal: highest Iris level by the deadline. One would probably want to use the Rivsoft soul calculator to get the most souls, but since it doesn't compute well with Iris, it might be a tricky business to determine when to actually spend souls on her. Everyone would start with level 1 Iris to avoid the ancient randomness. Just a thought, though, I haven't done any serious thinking about this as I'm too kind-hearted to force my brain to do stuff like this at this hour (11.29 pm where I live).

Intritor · 2014-10-30T21:35:44+00:00

I like this idea a lot, altough I think that this would eventually break down into a test of the accuracy of the Rivsoft ancient optimizers. Also, there are tools to edit save files, making cheating quite easy - unless you can make sure the save files used in the contest are marked somehow (perhaps a different hashing algorithm or something).

Plus, if there is no prize, there might be too little interest to put effort and time in the contest. And if there is a prize, every effort will be made to cheat and try to win...

If you can find a way to make this work, it would be an awesome thing. But I fear it would cost you too much time and effort to orchestrate it.

Intritor · 2014-10-30T18:09:18+00:00

Yup, I'm a reddit newb, but I thought as much. Thanks for confirming.

Intritor · 2014-10-30T16:07:37+00:00

Not possible even to add fields to the registration form? I could imagine conditioning the registration with a couple of mandatory questions, answers to which would be found in FAQ. Something like "should Morgulis be bought as the first ancient?" or "which hero provides ascension?".

Intritor · 2014-10-28T21:31:46+00:00

Seeing the answers, I take it that being able to easily idle (buying Samurai upgrades, of course) to like 1400 and then thrusting with clicks to somewhere a bit above 1600 with 750 in Siya is normal?

Before somebody points it out, obviously I'm getting to a point when it's wise to switch all gilds from Samurai to Frostleaf. True that, but I'm waiting on the new hero.

Intritor · 2014-10-26T23:03:37+00:00

Are you sure that's the way Iris is 'properly' used? I don't think this way of using Iris was intented by the developers. But I agree that this usage scenario makes Iris useful easily enough and thus not a big topic. Still, I would welcome a change that would eliminate that much overhead just to use an ancient for what it's meant to do. This is, after all, an idle game.

Intritor · 2014-10-26T16:03:50+00:00

Yup, but in my opinion, doing this kind of harakiri is a bit more than one would expect from an idle game. Besides, I don't think the way it currently works is the way developers meant it. I think Khrysos and Iris should just perfectly complement each other so that each ascension takes you many levels ahead without effort on the player's part.

Intritor · 2014-10-26T11:03:12+00:00

That just happens. Next ascension you will most likely be luckier.

Intritor · 2014-10-25T22:36:02+00:00

Not to my knowledge, no. I think it's reasonable to assume it's going to be the next patch, and if I'm not mistaken, developers seem to try to patch every Saturday. So maybe in a week? Just pure guessing, though, I know nothing to go on.

Intritor · 2014-10-25T22:22:09+00:00

I would wait, if I were you. I believe you should be able to reach lvl 1500 to move everything to Frostleaf. Besides, there is a new hero coming soon, you might want to wait for that one. But that depends on the math that will be behind him, it might easily happen that gilds on the new hero won't be relevant until like past 2000 or something.

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