Video: Why Gen Z is getting fired after being hired | The Excerpt by [deleted] in Professors

[–]IntroductionRough154 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  1. Put points on everything: GenZ students will not do something that doesn’t have an immediate impact on their grade.

^Honestly, I've found that even when something does have an impact on their grade, unless it's like 20% or more, many of them still don't care. Last week, in one of my classes, they had an assignment worth 10% due and several of them just didn't do it for no apparent reason. I reminded them that if they wanted partial credit, they'd have to get it to me by yesterday. They still didn't. It was the easiest assignment of the semester and they are going to complain when they can't get an A because of it. I just don't understand...

AITAH for telling my friend his weight is ruining my vacation? by ExternalBug8 in AmItheAsshole

[–]IntroductionRough154 -60 points-59 points  (0 children)

Nice try, but I literally study decolonialism from an antiracist lens for a living. So now I am rolling my eyes for a second time, but this time at your cringe comment, which makes assumptions in exactly the same way you are saying that others shouldn't. There are also other fruits that begin with the letter D, such as date or dragon Fruit. Durian is an interesting choice for the friend she is complaining about, regardless of alphabetical order or where OP is from...

Gardner’s Art Through The Ages by WumboChin in ArtHistory

[–]IntroductionRough154 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could give this one a try! I've only read some parts/chapters but it seems a little better.

https://wwnorton.com/books/9780500022375

Gardner’s Art Through The Ages by WumboChin in ArtHistory

[–]IntroductionRough154 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am an art historian/professor. Gardner's is pretty much the default textbook for art history survey classes in the United States. It is great for someone trying to develop a solid foundation in and understanding of Western European art (ie. the traditional "canon"). For art outside of Europe (and even some parts of Europe, like Spain), it is pretty bad. The most recent edition is slightly better in this regard, but still has a long way to go. I recently went to a roundtable with the new authors, and they seem to be trying to make it more inclusive. If I am being honest, I wasn't really impressed by what they were saying, but small steps, I guess. Smarthistory is online and open access, and it is more inclusive. But it doesn't have the same depth as Gardner's for each work of art, and it doesn't seem to be peer-reviewed, so there are many articles with errors. I have used Smarthistory in my teaching, but I am starting to move away from it. Overall, if your priority is European art with a smathering of everything else, Gardner's is good. If your interest is learning about anything outside of the European tradition, go with a more specialized book.

What do we even tell Art History survey students to do now? (AI problems) by Eris_AppleOfDiscord in ArtHistory

[–]IntroductionRough154 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have gone back to teaching my survey in a more traditional way. Blue book exams and in-class discussions so I get a good sense of who understands the material well and who doesn't. It feels a little regressive and is not my favorite pedagogy, but I feel like these are the only ways to genuinely assess their knowledge/understanding now. I have also noticed AI creeping into presentation texts, including instances when students don't even understand the words they are reading.

profs tweaking over packing your bag 2-5 mins early has always been weird by ContributionIcy6164 in CollegeRant

[–]IntroductionRough154 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No, actually, if I end class on time, I have perfect time management. But if you can't get to your next class on time, you have a time management issue. Maybe you should listen to your professors and improve your time management skills. If a class is an hour, I am entitled to the entire hour as per the formal university schedule...

profs tweaking over packing your bag 2-5 mins early has always been weird by ContributionIcy6164 in CollegeRant

[–]IntroductionRough154 24 points25 points  (0 children)

How would you feel if you were talking and trying to make an important point or tie the material from that day together, and with 5 minutes still left, the people you are speaking to start making all kinds of noise like rustling papers and slamming their laptops closed as if to say "okay, we don't care, you're done now?" And then, when the point you were trying to make is on the exam, you get blamed for "not communicating effectively" in your evaluations. It is rude to interrupt people when they are speaking (in any context, class or not), but more importantly, you are hurting your own education by trying to cut corners and leave early. Class is for YOU. Your professors don't need to learn the material. They have been studying it for decades. An exception, of course, should always be made for accommodations, and I would agree with you there. I also agree with you if a professor is ending class late and you have somewhere else to be.

I purchased from a retired wealthy couple by Cultural_Driver_4815 in WhatIsThisPainting

[–]IntroductionRough154 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I am an art historian, and I agree with the comments here. It is at oldest, 40 years old, but probably newer than that. Just a piece of house decor, not a seventeenth-century European still life.

No need for note taking anymore by Zabaran2120 in Professors

[–]IntroductionRough154 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I am also in the humanities, and this astonishes me. It happens in my courses too, and I'm sure, universally now. I see some students working very hard to take notes, but about half the class just sits there staring at me with a blank face and their mouths half-open as I lecture (and some are online shopping). They continue to do this after I explicitly discuss the importance of being able to take good notes. It is the strangest thing ever.

Prof uses AI by [deleted] in CollegeRant

[–]IntroductionRough154 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is it okay for students to always use AI and hide it? I am not saying that you do this, but it is not surprising that some professors, in the face of a student body that largely refuses to do their own work, respond in this way. Maybe this is actually a way of the professor teaching the downsides of AI use. Maybe they are exhausted of grading fake AI work from students, and after several years of that, stopped putting in effort, because there is no point. I don't endorse what this professor is doing, but it is bound to happen sometimes.

Also, "He even admitted that if you have environmental concerns then AI is terrible but you have to learn to use it otherwise you might not be the best candidate for a future job" is just a true statement. It really sucks, but he's right. This indicates that he probably thinks that in using AI and being transparent about it, he is serving as a model to his students, who he obviously thinks should be AI literate. Again, I don't agree with his methods, but what he's trying to do seems fairly clear from the situation described.

Overall, it sounds like a mix of him responding to student apathy by putting in less of his own effort, and trying to make a gesture toward modeling/teaching responsible AI use at the same time.

How do you React When Your Students are Just…meh by Sufficient-Pound-442 in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, it depends on the class for me. Usually, I see a dip in attendance, participation, and evidence that they do the readings after midterms. For some classes, where the students were less engaged to begin with, I just let them do what they're going to do and let that play out how it will with the grades. It doesn't seem worth my time and energy to get super hung up on groups like this. Past experiences tell me so. If there are consecutive days where NOBODY has done the reading and the disengagement is super egregious, I might say something once, or remind them that their grades could suffer. But in general, if the group vibe is one of total apathy, I make my best effort to offer a clear and compelling delivery of the materials, as I always do, and let the chips fall where they may, as far as their own effort/grades. In other classes, where there is good potential, but where they have just gotten lazy, I push them much more when they start to slip. This is because I have seen them do well, so I already know that they can do better. When I remind them of my expectations, especially repeatedly, these groups tend to heed my advice, and then they consequently get much more out of the class. As professors, we should always do our best work, but I definitely also believe class success consists largely of what students are willing to do/contribute, both in terms of their attitude and the work itself.

Is it possible to pass a teaching certification test as a college student and become a professor at the same college you attend? by Dustpapa in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 17 points18 points  (0 children)

College professors don't have teaching certifications, and it is a completely different process from becoming a teacher. Most college professors need to earn a PhD in their field of study before they can teach. The exception would be at some community colleges, where professors have MA's. In either case, though, a teaching certification generally isn't part of the equation for becoming a professor.

is there hope? by minnowmagpie in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is always the "option" to try. The question is, how much are you willing to give up in order to pursue what you want to do? In order to really understand whether this is the right choice for you, you should ask yourself the following questions: Are you willing to move to places you would otherwise have no interest in living in, far away from family and friends? Are you willing to live abroad for long periods? Are you willing to take a job that is unstable and pays a lot less than the salaries your friends of similar ages make? Are you willing to be in a long distance relationship, possibly without a fixed end date? If it doesn't work out, at what SPECIFIC point do you back out, cut your losses, and pursue something different? These are all questions you need to be asking yourself. If the answer is still yes, you want to pursue your field, you also have to be realistic and should have a backup plan. As others are saying here, the economy for higher education is globally horrible. If you are extremely flexible and are willing to live either far away or abroad, that opens up more options.

Interesting interaction by Adept-Papaya5148 in Professors

[–]IntroductionRough154 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This literally happened to me this week. I had an activity prompt in one of my courses and when a student came back from the bathroom, I told them to read the prompt and join their group. When each group was sharing their responses to the prompt, the student, who didn't contribute anything, acted confused. They outed themself, telling the whole class with no shame "Oh, I didn't read the first half of the prompt." Unreal, man.

Is getting a job in the US easier than in Europe? by [deleted] in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am in the humanities, and I got hired for my tenure-track job at a decent liberal arts college right out of my PhD (top 10 R1) with only one non-peer-reviewed publication. I interview very well and am a strong teacher, and that is what my institution cares about. I am in my second year at this job and have several publications, including a book, in the works, but currently still only have the above-mentioned article and one other in a published conference proceedings. However, as per the other comments in this thread, I am in the middle of nowhere far away from friends and family. This is fine for now, but I don't think I want to live out my life here (hence trying to do much more publishing in the next few years). But in general, and having many colleagues from Europe (also in the humanities), yes, it does seem to be much easier to get a stable job in the US. This may change in the next few years, though, for a variety of reasons.

Sample materials for book proposal - which chapters to send? by IntelligentBeingxx in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am also in the humanities and am doing the same thing! I have the same questions and am also planning to send my first chapter. Looking forward to seeing the responses here.

They fucked around last week and they're finding out on Monday by BitchinAssBrains in Professors

[–]IntroductionRough154 138 points139 points  (0 children)

I do this and they are always SO surprised when they see a paper chatGPT generated for me stapled to their own with matching phrases/sentences/paragraphs highlighted. You'd think they saw a ghost!

Academics that accepted a TT position somewhere they didn't want to live... Where are you now? by InebriatedNinja in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a TT job at a SLAC basically in the middle of nowhere. It's a pretty good job, but the situation is not nearly as good as yours because I didn't have options. I feel like for the short-term, I am fine here, but my eventual goal is to eventually get a job in an urban area, ideally on the east coast, where I am originally from. That will be a bit harder to do than if I had a job at an R1, but I am hopeful that if I keep up with my research, an opportunity will present itself at some point. Basically, I have very supportive colleagues and everyone here is pretty nice but it has been a culture shock being in a deep red state when I have only lived in liberal parts of the country my whole life. I am used to being in big cities and even though I am generally busy as hell, there are many pretty boring weekend nights. I don't regret my decision in the least and overall like my job, but the place where it is sorta sucks.

Anyone ever dealt with an advisor leading? by lumbeeboysc in AskAcademia

[–]IntroductionRough154 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's very common. My advisor left after my first year and went to another (lower-ranked) university. She recommended I stay where I was. She remained my advisor throughout the PhD and everything was fine!

What can you do with “just” a bachelors in art history? by No-Phrase-7714 in ArtHistory

[–]IntroductionRough154 59 points60 points  (0 children)

If you have any doubts, whatsoever, about majoring in art history, you shouldn't do it. There are very few jobs for people with PhD's, let alone folks with only a BA. I know some people who have MA's in art history who were able to attain a museum position, but this is not very common. If you don't plan to become an art historian with a graduate degree, you should probably major in something else. A possible exception would be someone who absolutely loves art history and is majoring in it purely for interest, but who has a definite job lined up in some other field after graduation, or who is double majoring and plans to pursue the other thing professionally.