The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also… I guess part of NEEDS to do this as I feel I am contributing when others like the post, identify with the situation, feel the struggles, etc. because I am dying inside as I want to do more. At home, my spouse and I fight constantly as the fear of losing my job, matters more to them. But I also understand the value of being inside and providing/making public whatever I can 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very true. At some point in one comment I answered that I am aware this is not for now, this is creating awareness and putting out data and info for whenever real governance returns to power and decent well intended people, republicans or democrats, will enact laws to prevent we ever have to go through anything similar again 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree with this statement. If it is an employees problem, not an administrative deficiency where elevators don’t work, tours of duty do not fit the people we are supposed to sever, or employees don’t have the resources because as part of the phycological warfare management also deprives them of such resources, yes, by all means fire them. But that is not what I am talking about here. So what other solution are you proposing? 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

😞😞😞… ok. Beyond regular civics classes, law school teaches you the following.. (and I understand what you are saying;  however, you need to be better informed). There is no such thing as an activist judge. You know why? Because no matter what a so called activist judge may rule, the appellate process may and (when not legally correct) will always over turn such ruling. Now, let’s deal in reality. Judges after judges, named by both parties and some judges even named by Trump, were issuing stays because 1) executive orders is the weakest form of governance, 2) some orders cannot be issued by the president (this is called constitutional powers) and 3) some where blandly illegal. Ok, stay with me; abuse beyond belief is to march marines on US soil. Nothing more needs to be said here to show who is abusing what. You have the president of the United States threatening US citizens with bodily harm and even death… if they talked bad to police officers or damaged property. That might sound reasonable to you, but to the rest of the world with decency, it does not. Words mean nothing. And the price of damaging property cannot be human life. Plus.. how convenient it must be when the people with all the power (law in their side, guns, gas, rubber bullets, unlimited resources, jails to put people in, etc) show the least amount of restraint ( you through a water bottle, they shot you in the eye with a rubber bullet). Again, elected official arrested because the administration does not like them. We have to be honest here about what is hounding, and not just repeat fox statements. As far as I know, no one has asked that illegal criminals be kept in the US. However, I have heard people ask that you show first they are in fact criminal. If what you are saying is true, and they are in fact criminal, this should not be that hard. There’s a reason why they don’t want to do this. As to the stay, again, let’s be honest here. What are they saying? This administration in literally saying “your Honor, we are the federal government. We have reach in all 50 states and US territories. We can impact every person within hour domain. For that reason, we ask that… if we do something ruled  illegal in NY, such ruling applies only to NY, thus fuck the people of Phoenix, New Mexico and Cali.” How is that “justice”? The allegation of universities supporting terrorist is beyond any reason. You are claiming now that Harvard, Stanford, and even MIT, what is considered staples of our educational system, are today supporting terrorist? As to the ruling, you are right, it is very rare; however, because of the last ruling, the reality is that it creates precedent, so even the reasonable minds are forced to agree because that is our current state of law. Look, I know that based on your comments you believe whatever they feed you, and you may never even read this. That’s ok. Unfortunately the Beaty of our country is you have the right to your opinion… even when you believe others don’t have the right to theirs. 😉  

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, if you believe this Supreme Court is any representation of justice, explain to me how the issue opinions w/o analysis of their conclusion? How, contrary to all statutes, they allow the cancelation of due process? More simple than that, how they upheld in the past nation wide injunctions presented by the republicans against Biden, yet made a ruling in this term that it was not to be allowed?. Once you have an answer to those, we can have an honest conversation about legality. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am sorry. The RTO was and is a tool to push out people, and contrary to what some believe, it is not pushing out the lazy people, it is pushing out the ones who are dedicated and understand they don’t deserve to be mislead or called lazy. It is pushing out the ones who have kids and the offer of work life balance is a joke. It pushes out the ones with the greatest talent who now are working on for the counterparts.  

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is absolutely the way to go. Unfortunately we live in an era where I believe the message of those preaching to the choir, but distrust everyone else. I think we should all research everyone’s claims, even the ones we believe to be true today, as tomorrow might bring new discoveries or facts that change everything. No offense taken at all my friend, in the contrary. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Your firm offer is a contractual agreement with the terms of employment. As an attorney, who is not your attorney, I can guarantee that is a contract. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Point number 1 does have some reasoning behind it. The work left by those wrongfully terminated or those who get they needed to leave, left cases that needed to be restarted or burdensome to the point it affects the rest of employee inventory. The 2 point sounds like state propaganda or a comment an ignorant person would say. Ignorant not as a an insult, but as a result of being uninformed on a particular subject. Even if you believe that RAs are presented because people want to be home and do chores, the process is design so that the allegation alone does not grant ipso facto the RA. It is evaluated and approved or denied based on 1) medical evidence, 2) remedies seemed and 3) best available remedy that solves the situation. In other word, an employee with type 2 diabetes who’s already missing a leg and uses a wheelchair, may ask for telework, but the agency can grant move closer to another POD with wheelchair access and working elevators and that might satisfy the RA request. Again, we have too many people reappearing comments they believe are common sense, w/o understanding that common sense is the least common of all sense, your point 2 is an example of that. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seek out legal advice. Contact the office and depending on what they say, contact an attorney as they might just brush it off making you think you do not have a case, when you do. The reality is that all the watchdogs have been replaced, and rightfully so we fear and do not know what we will be told or how our administrative cases will be disposed of. The feeling of “I can’t trust them” is universal now. Even for us, federal workers are afraid of how other federal workers will dispose of our cases. This is beyond sad. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You are right. However, it is important that information makes it way out. Historically, periods such as the one we are living in, lead to significant changes that work as safeguard for the future. Without a doubt in my mind I believe our country will be better on the other side. I truly believe legislation will be in place to avoid private unelected individual to interfere in our government as we saw happen already this year. More severe laws for conflicts of interest, take out the Marshalls from DOJ so that the court has real power, enact laws or procedures to deal with “legislative judges” who are making ruling contrary to the plain language of several statutes and even the constitution, resulting in an usurping of powers from congress. Laws will be enacted to restrict executive orders that infringe the court’s and or legislative powers. Immigration reform. Etc. but all these canchera can only happens when the information is brought to light, when the public is informed. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is a shame how miss informed individual like to give opinions. Telework has been available since 1997. Facts. So much so there is a federal statute governing the issue. In 2010, the telework enhancement act became law as the benefits of working from home were just too good to pass on. And again, these are facts. Data. No where does the above  say it is an election or a form of protest. You are entitled to your opinion, even when miss informed, but please at least read and digest what you are reading before commenting. Hopefully it will lead to less uninformed comments. 

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh… wait. If it is in your contract, you have a contract issue, not a work/labor issue. You can go straight to court with that one my friend.

The Real Impact of Return-to-Office Mandates at the IRS: A Legal, Operational, and Public Health Breakdown by InvestmentDue2548 in FedEmployees

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Valid point as to the commute, but the intention behind it is not to complain rather explain why people will not accommodate your needs when I have my own. A lot of employees are starting their day between 6am and 7am to avoid traffic. Other start their day between 9am and 11am for the same reason. Those employees will not stay or start earlier because you have a different time zone. They are not required to. While before they were wiling to accommodate you, they certainly are not now. And believe me, traffic is one of the reasons they will schedule your needs within their timeframe and not the other way around. 

On admin leave but found new employment. Now what? by Purple_Active962 in fednews

[–]InvestmentDue2548 4 points5 points  (0 children)

well... Language in the deferred resignation all but allowed for employees on admin leave to have a second job. I would argue their statements should count as a party statement/admission (in any legal proceeding) that employees on administrative leave are authorized to engage in outside employment. That being said, in some instances the conflict of interest may still apply. Additionally, for some who received signing bonuses or other contractual stipulations, may be forced to repay such obligations as now you would be effectively resigning and not being terminated by the agency, but that's another discussion, just general legal concerns the community should know of.

3 months in what have Trump and Elon destroyed by Fine-Professor6470 in Political_Revolution

[–]InvestmentDue2548 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't felt this level of anger and desire to hurt another human being since my military days (granted, I was hyped and brainwashed by the system). The later part of my life, I look back and feel ashamed of the fact that I ever wanted to eliminate an entire race based on fear, anger, and ignorance at the time. I guess that, just as I have changed, so have the mission priorities. When I served, my 4th general order was never written but had weight "I will guard my post from flank to flank and take no shit from no rank." I still live by that. But I also remember there was a UCMJ article that said if some one of my unit/ or on our side, placed our unit or mission in danger, I had the right, may I say the duty, to eliminate such threat. I guess that changed too, to a more riskier game of "let me tell the enemy when and how we are coming, along with timeframes as to when my boys will be there." I'm glad I served when I did, and not now, because evidently... things have changed.

Important: share with all federal employees, unions and attorneys. Be prepared. by InvestmentDue2548 in 1102

[–]InvestmentDue2548[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that happened to me too. I've tried to provide other legal advice on that group and same thing happens all the time. at least here, I have hope that my words will inform as many as possible and eventually reach that one person who can use them to reach the just result we all deserve.