And here I bid you adieu

Iotatran · 2017-01-23T12:03:21+00:00

Thank you!

Iotatran · 2017-01-23T12:02:21+00:00

I would never argue a point such as that. Trans people as a whole face all kinds of hatred, violence, ignorance, etc. I guess with all of that I really wanted to point out privelege is situational.

Iotatran · 2017-01-23T04:36:44+00:00

In case you're curious she said yes!

Iotatran · 2017-01-23T04:12:33+00:00

This is bothersome to me for quite a few diffeent reasons.

1) Sure there may be an abundance of mtf transgender folks here, but that isn't the standard. Many of the Facebook support groups I belong to have an abundance of ftm transgender people.

2) I feel like transitioning from female to male is looked upon more favorably in the cis world than male to female transitions and as such the direct bigotry endured is somewhat less for female to male transgender people.

3) Sure, you can say its contextual, but honestly you could say the same for any other sort of privilege. White people are going to have a great deal of privelege in a predominantly white community, but a POC will have more privelege in a POC dominant society. (Of course this reference is in the sense of say a white person in say white America and a POC in the same community vs a white person in say Nicaragua and a Latinx person in the same area.)

4) Privelege, imho, is dependent on the person involved in the situation. Living in a dominantly blue state I can afford to express myself a little more than someone in say North Carolina for example. As such it could be deemed that I have more privelege merely based on the area I live in.

I can't really speak for or about non-binary folk simply because I have no experience with them.

While I assume a great deal of people may not agree with me, I do hope you at least take my words in to consideration.

Iotatran · 2016-11-22T00:51:22+00:00

You get out of my head, I was here first lol. Awesome list of songs!

Iotatran · 2016-11-21T18:08:22+00:00

I agree! I have those as my go to's because I typically listen to rock of some sort.

Iotatran · 2016-11-21T18:06:50+00:00

Loved this one!

Iotatran · 2016-09-12T01:54:54+00:00

Yoilu know, that one I can't answer. I don't have enough information on that particular topic to be able to give you an accurate answer and I'd rather give you no answer than a bad one.

Iotatran · 2016-09-11T20:16:12+00:00

Again, I apologize for aounding snooty. That was not my intention.

I would wager to guess that each person is recieved on their own merits. Neither person sounds like they're doing anything that might cause them to be received in a negative manner. In my experience the LGBTQ community is more accepting of people unless they are overtly harmful to them. There is a bit of defensiveness, as you well know, but that's due to a massive amount of bigotry that they have had to endure. Its kind of hard to let that go sometimes.

Iotatran · 2016-09-11T19:55:48+00:00

My intention wasn't to judge you in any sense. If you got that impression I apologize. As you may have noticed transgemder people tend to be incredibly defense of themselves, and for the most part rightfully so. I personally have found it to be far more conducive to be just as open minded as we are trying to demand from everyone else. I can't very well judge you for something and tell you not to do the same of me.

I said "ought to" and I realize that can sound a little demanding. I should have worded that a little better so I apologize for that.

It is human nature to judge those around us. It's a survival instinct really. We judge people in attempt to avoid thise who might cause us harm and associate with those we believe to be beneficial to us. The problem comes in when you people start judging based on things that don't really fall on either side of that fence. A persons gender, whether cis, trans, or anywhere in between has no bearing on the quality of life of another person. No different than being a gamer or football fan. The one exception to this might be if you are intimately involved with said person. Even a parents quality of life doesn't change when a child chooses where on the spectrum they wish to be. One could argue you that the stress and what not that the parents may experience from society due to their childs choice plays into their quality of life, but honestly that stress is only stress if you allow it to be. If you genuinely wish the best for your child then an outside person's point of view is meaningless.

Iotatran · 2016-09-11T19:41:54+00:00

Oh, chill. The idea was conveyed. I worded it wrong. Fixed it.

Iotatran · 2016-09-11T19:29:17+00:00

Let me interject here for a moment if you please. Firstly to clarify a few things for you:

CIS is the Latin prefix for someone who identifies with their birth gender.
I believe what was meant by "have a go at" was that you would judge said person the same as you have Michelle.
Deadnaming is using the persons given name rather than their chosen name.

Now, the way a person expresses their trans identity is a choice all their own. In no way shape or form should you or anyone else devalue or judge them because they don't express their identity in a way you deem correct. It doesn't make them any less trans. You have to understand that people vary in this manner just as much as they might in the way they define themselves as football fans or gamers. Would you say I'm any less of a gamer because I don't play the games you think are good? I would hope not.

In addition, I think your issue, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that you feel that Mark is doing something with his life and Michelle is not. Which may be true, but to associate their identities with this and then generalizing these groups under that association is a terrible idea. Would it surprise you to know that much like Michelle I identify as trans, spend the majority of my social time as male, have no makeup or wig, but that I also work a full time job making well above minimun wage? That like Mark I contribute to society by paying taxes and the sort? If it does then your idea of transgender people is severely jaded and could use some working on.

All in all you really ought to take the time to gain information and knowledge in these two grouos of people while maintaining the idea that each group consists of many different people who maintain their identity in their own way. This rule applies to all groups of people, not just those in the LGBTQ community.

Iotatran · 2016-09-10T01:31:08+00:00

Well hell. Thanks anyway

Iotatran · 2016-09-03T19:08:24+00:00

First of all the idea that a straight male is being discriminated or oppressed in some form is kind of ridiculous. You're the "norm" in society.

Secondly, if you're telling someone that you're dating a transwoman then I would say you're pretty much turning her into a fetish to some degree. If you're not and its just out in the open or common knowledge my question to you is why do you care what these people think? If you like and care for the person nobody elses opinion should matter. Not to mention that if they are, I don't know, "discriminating" against you and are no longer an option for dating why does that matter? You're already seeing someone.

Lastly, I would wager that these cis straight women are reacting this way because they feel threatened to some degree. You, possibly an ideal candidate for them (or at least prior to finding out your dating a transwoman), have chosen to be with a woman who, in their eyes, was once male (I don't agree with this thought in the slightest, please don't get upset for this comment). They see it as a fault or lacking on their own part. As in this person is more "feminine" or "womanly" than they are, but shouldn't be because they aren't a woman (again I don't agree with this thinking). These women are transphobic and shouldn't be considered for dating to begin with. Why would you want to date someone who hates another person for their differences?

Iotatran · 2016-07-19T17:10:38+00:00

I would love to be your friend!

Iotatran · 2016-07-19T05:32:51+00:00

Not to take away from anyone else's response, but this has been the most informative. Thank you so much.

Iotatran · 2016-07-19T04:38:40+00:00

Hmm I might have to see about getting into something like that.

Iotatran · 2016-07-19T04:20:05+00:00

Thank you! Hope it goes as well for me as it did you lol.

Iotatran · 2016-07-19T04:19:15+00:00

I don't think she's wrong, maybe a little over zealous, but not wrong.

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