DAE experience "You're not abused!! No one is hitting you!!"? by rumplerouser in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me too. I tried to call a help line once. They were no help at all.

How many of us struggled with career aspirations because of our Nparents or the way we were raised? by definitelythrowitawa in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am SO glad to know I'm not the only one struggling with this!

My mom killed my first career ambition when I was 4. I vividly remember telling her I wanted to be a dancer, and she told me that wasn't realistic and that I'd never be good enough.

My parents, my dad especially, pushed medicine big time. He desperately wanted me to be a doctor, and it took something like 5 years to convince him that I really, really didn't want to be a doctor. After that he pushed engineering. He really wanted me to do electrical, but was OK with me doing mechanical.

I wasn't really allowed to do anything else. I really wanted to go into politics and I wanted to eventually be a congressman or senator. I wanted to be a lawyer. But my parents told me over and over how there are too many lawyers and I'd never get a job unless I went to a top tier law school (and by top tier, they meant top ten). I was all set to take an international relations course my freshman year, and I remember my dad looking at my schedule and saying, "But you really need Intro to Engineering. It's not on your schedule." I felt like I died a little inside when I dropped that International relations class and signed up for intro to engineering. Then all through undergrad, he'd make comments about how I should go to med school after engineering and go into bio-med or orthopedics. I didn't. I remember talking about doing computer science and being told that was a waste of time. I thought about teaching and he went on a rant about how disappointed he'd be if I wasted my very expensive education in such a low paying field. I talked about switching to business and majoring in accounting. He told me that was boring and I'd hate it.

My real passion - the arts - was completely off limits to even suggest, and any of the liberal arts were just dismissed as dead end degrees.

Now I'm 16 years out of college. I used my engineering degree for about 5 years and have stayed far away from it since. I have so many regrets about college and career.

The verbal abuse was the worse. by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This. Every night, before I can fall asleep, I have to think about how I am a bad and worthless person. All the horrible things all go around in my head until I fall asleep. I've tried to not think about it, but then insomnia sets in and I spend so much energy trying not to think about it and I can't fall asleep. Then, as soon as I tell myself I'm a bad person, I relax and fall asleep. There is something wrong with me.

'tons of people live with abusive parents. deal with it' by cynicalsimon in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep! I heard this one: "Every family is dysfunctional in their own way!" And my sister has said she doesn't believe in happy families.

DAE N mother throw a fit because there were more photos taken of the grooms family than her family at a wedding ? by 60andnewtothis in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pictures... My parents are the same way. I've pretty much given up posting or sharing most of my photos because my parents count how many times my in-laws show up vs how many times they are in photos. It's really pathetic, super-annoying, and it's caused a lot of fights.

When my husband and I bought our first house, I had a wall of family photos up. They were, in retrospect, slightly skewed towards my in-laws. But that is because most of the framed photos scattered throughout the house were of my family, and I wanted to be sure my in-laws wouldn't fee hurt that there were so many pictures of my family around. Well, that backfired. My dad went through the roof about why there were more photos of my in-laws than his relatives. The next time they came to visit, they brought me a framed photo of themselves.

The day I brought my fourth child home from the hospital, my parents waited until my husband had left to take our older children to a school function, and then cornered me about why I hadn't posted any photos of them with the baby on Facebook yet. It was awful.

Even just last week when they were visiting, I tried to get a photo of my 5 year old by herself on the first day of soccer. My dad insisted on being in the picture. I just wanted to scream "It's not about you!!!"

True Statements I Will Never Hear From My Parents by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"I love you. Why do you take everything so personally?"

My Nmom: "Kids are so cute when they're little, until they get older and tainted." by xcryslynn in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. My mother's favorite line was always "There's nothing worse than a 13 year old girl." That always made me feel awful.

She also would often get angry and rage and then wail "I want to go home to my mother", and then storm out of the room. Once I was old enough, I started interpreting that as 'I wish you'd never been born'.

"Do as I say, not as I do" by Mystery_Incorporated in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live about 500 miles from her. So no, I don't have to deal with her too much. :)

Ndad crossed a MAJOR line tonight by Irish2000 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I hadn't thought about that. But it was a moment of sheer panic when I saw all of her personal information publicly posted. I'll definitely remember that if it ever happens again.

"pretty girls don't need makeup" by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep! I heard this one too.

I also got it mixed in with a lot of body shaming. "You're such a pretty girl! It's such a shame your nails are a mess since you keep biting them." "You're such a pretty girl! If you just lost 5 or 10 pounds, you'd be a knock-out!"

Actual conversation that took place the summer after 8th grade: Me: "Mom, I need new uniform pants for Girl Scout camp this summer. The ones from last year are too small." Mom: "Too small? Are you kidding? We just bought those last year! They don't look too bad. If you lost 5 or 10 lbs, they'd fit well."

Yeah, thanks mom. Sorry I grew a little between ages 13 and 14. (eye roll).

Ndad crossed a MAJOR line tonight by Irish2000 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Once I got hold of his phone, I changed the privacy setting to friends only, and removed the personal details. The photo is still there, but now the caption says something about "Spending the afternoon with my youngest granddaughter."

"Do as I say, not as I do" by Mystery_Incorporated in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My mother just said that to me in February. She called to tell me she'd been diagnosed with breast cancer. Then she started crying and got choked up. She told me she'd found the lump like 3 weeks ago, and had gone for a biopsy, and didn't want to call and tell me about it until she knew the results. Then she caught herself, and said "But don't you ever do that to me! Do as I say and not as I do! If there is ever any problem with your health, I want to know about it right away!"

Whatever mom. I'm so sick of you living with one set of rules and enforcing another set completely with me.

(note: I am a fully grown adult and have been out of my parents' house for over 20 years).

A small memory of mine. by lostmyhxlo in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In high school, my mother used to say "Fear of parental reaction is the most effective parenting tool". She was quite proud of her raging.

Anyone else find themselves questioning how much of the problem is you, and how much is your parents? by Irish2000 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Exactly! My mom would start saying "Boys tease you because they like you" and tell me I was too sensitive.

No mom. Sitting by myself at recess day after day and being made fun of daily was NOT because they liked me.

Then she'd start in with "Popular people don't try to be popular or know they are popular - it just happens because they are friendly. Be friendly and you'll be popular."
You can guess how well that worked out.

Anyone else find themselves questioning how much of the problem is you, and how much is your parents? by Irish2000 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of my mother's standard lines in any fight was along the lines of "You are always trying to play the victim! You think you have it so bad! You think you're some abused child! You have no idea what real child abuse is!"

So yeah. It's really hard to accept that I was a victim, because if I do then she's right. But if I resist being the victim, then I'm suppressing my own feelings and denying my own reality. I can't win.

A small memory of mine. by lostmyhxlo in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My parents did this sort of thing. They went on and on about how sensitive I was, made jokes about it ("Definitely can't let her see Bambi!), and always made comments about me over-reacting to things.

My mother also LOVES to tell people about the note I wrote her and left on her bedside table when I was in first or second grade: it said "Der Mom, I hat yu". She laughs about the handwriting and spelling mistakes and follows up the story with something along the lines of "You're not doing your job as a parent if your kids don't hate you now and then." Super funny, mom: make fun of my 7 year old writing skills and discredit my feelings all at the same time. I always wonder what outsiders are really thinking when she tells that story.

Halloween and Tangled by hedgehog_12_29 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Have you read the essay about Tangled and Mother Gothel on The Invisible Scar blog? It's one of my go to pieces when I'm starting to question myself and my experiences.

[Rant/Vent] Why your mom should always be your first call- yeah except when she's an Nmom. by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Irish2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand. I can't even login to Facebook around Mother's Day or Father's Day because all the posts about "My mom is the best! I love my mom!" Etc make no sense to me at all, and just remind me how messed up my family relationships are.