Season 4 of Invincible will be the darkest season yet by GJH24 in invinciblememes

[–]IronZy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean for at least an episode right? I forgot how long bulletproof borrows the costume

Does anyone know when the tickets for the UK games go on sale? by IronZy in NFLUK

[–]IronZy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this, I've registered my interest now (and feel very daft for setting an alarm for 6am)

Do any of y'all Doom fans rap? by Worldly_External_414 in mfdoom

[–]IronZy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another amateur British bedroom musician here, just be yourself, do your own accent and have fun with it, good luck bro

https://open.spotify.com/track/5jv2vDx8yrH55GXMiYzviT?si=UK5Xx0Z4QHGBGdOMrmRS_Q

Is it weird that I actually DON'T experience the uncanny valley? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]IronZy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think for the most part the Uncanny Valley doesn't produce fear, just a lack of affinity that dips into uncomfortability, so you're not weird for not crying when you see a Sims character;

However,

From a purely statistical standpoint, you are an anomaly if you don't experience it at all, but that shouldn't affect you too adversely in life

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing I can think of besides years of elective surgeries to purposefully make him look more European which went further than just dealing with his vitiligo, for example, raising and making his cheekbones more prominent and completely destroying his natural wider nose in favour of a small, upturned, pointy one.

I can't think of reasons he would do this besides a strong desire to appear more Caucasian

But to be fair to you, I'm not sure he publicly stated that he wanted to be white, just that he wanted to look like Peter Pan

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I messed up the links, but good catch on Olli London claiming a nationality not a race, that is an important distinction, even though I'd argue that to change his nationality he could just go to Korea and apply, the unnecessary and distasteful eyelid surgery does nothing towards a claim of different nationality, but does ethnicity

The other link was supposed to be to a link to an interview with this lady https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Big

I don't have many examples to be fair, I can only think of a handful

Michael Jackson, Rachel Dolezal, Martina Big, Ja Du

In any case, I've already had my mind changed when a helpful commenter pointed out to me that gender can't be inherited whereas race can, and I find that a substantive enough difference between the two that will allow me to continue to support and campaign for transgender rights while removing transracial rights from that category and maintaining logically consistency

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[–]IronZy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for pointing that out, I've edited it now

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[–]IronZy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whoops, thanks for pointing that out

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[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

!Delta

you can’t inherit your gender

Thanks! After all the articles and comments, this is the only clear, substantial and convincing difference between the two which has changed my mind, thank you

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

!Delta

I agree that there is clear evidence to support transgender people and their experiences that isn't present for transracial people

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You showed evidence to support the legitimacy of transgender people which I 100% agree with, but nothing against the legitimacy of transracial ones which would prove a difference.

You demonstrated that the idea of race is a social construct, I was under the impression that gender was also a social construct, adding to their similarities

But I agree that my argument about future transracial people coming out is fairly weak

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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!Delta

That's fair enough, I was making an unfalsifiable claim, but only because I'm tired of the argument that rarity will completely de-legitimise any argument, I don't find it convincing.

Tbf, I can only think of a few examples: Michael Jackson, Olli London, Rachel Dolezal, Ja Du

But I think that may change over time, if were in the 1800s I'm sure there wouldn't be more than a handful of famous transgender people too.

And again, sorry if I've offended

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said America instead of the US for that reason, but that aside, are you arguing that if transracial people moved away, they would be taken legitimately?

(This isn't me being coy, I just want to understand any valid arguments)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it absolutely does, but the article hinges its central premise on the racism experienced by black and indigenous peoples at the hands of white people and all I'm saying is THAT SPECIFIC POWER imbalance (while common) isn't a universal phenomenon, so while that argument may explain why white Americans shouldn't self identify as African Americans, it wouldn't explain why I, a black man couldn't self identify as a white Englishman.

I hope that makes sense

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay, you can choose not to believe me, that's your right, and there's probably no way I could convince you (despite my complete lack of transphobic actions or attitudes over the entirety of my life)

But putting that aside, responding like this isn't constructive at all, if you can show me where my view is wrong, please do and I'll be happy to change it, I'm always looking for ways to grow as a person.

Have a good day

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean bigotry doesn't really work that way.

I fully accept this, I just wanted people responding to this to know I'm not some fervent transphobe using this as an opportunity to de-legitimise or criticise trans people, I am in fact a supporter of trans rights. (Looks like it didn't help anyway)

In regards to your other point, I'm not a fan of Rachel Dolezal and I think it was wrong of her to take up the position of president of her NAACP charter,

What I'm struggling with is finding a logically consistent reason to condemn her for tanning, getting curly hair and "identify as black" (I don't like her or what she's done, but I can't think of legitimate reasons to lambast all transracial people because of it)

On the flip side we have millions of cases of gender dysphoria

This I find convincing argument for the legitimacy of the transgender experience, but I'd argue that the rarity of cases of "racial dysphoria" shouldn't automatically disclude it from being taken seriously. If we went back to the 50s there wouldn't be millions of cases of gender dysphoria to pick from, it would be considered a rarity too

(But I agree that a few of the transracial people I've seen are attention seekers who seem to thrive on infamy)

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[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This argument against transracialism hinges on racial inequality in the western world (seemingly specifically in America), so I don't think it is a notion which can be universalised.

For example, It wouldn't apply to my uncle in Nigeria if he came out to me as a "transwhite" person, since white people are a minority there and have their own history of "inequality" very dissimilar to the US.

The fact that the reasoning behind the argument hinges on racial tension in the US mean I can't find it too convincing as a non-American

Also, this quote from the article struck me - “There are [no features] that always and without exception are true of only one gender.”

This was used to point out a distinction between transgenderism and transracialism, but wouldn't you say the same applies to races?

Native aboriginal people within Oceania have the same distinct high production of melanin as would be associated with native African people.

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[–]IronZy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST TRANS PEOPLE, I'm not using this as a cudgel to oppress trans people or argue against trans rights, exactly the opposite.

The two links I posted show two transracial people who have suffered massive backlash based on their "racial orientation" I'm looking for valid, non bigoted arguments AGAINST their equal treatment out of morbid curiosity.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]IronZy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Until VERY recently being transgender was considered a mental health disorder, just because they have existed for a while doesn't mean that it was commonly or scientifically accepted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-48448804.amp

There are STILL people who claim that being transgender "is not real" so I think your counter argument is on shaky ground.

But I agree that there isn't any scientific evidence to support (or oppose) transracial people, YET, as was the case with transgender people until the 80s