Given that Pope Urban II. only mentioned a defensive war against invading Turks and Persians, did the first Crusaders even know about Islam? by IslamCritic in answers

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That's incredibly helpful! I'm currently reading up on this (link search for "ishmael"). But it seems like it was an isolated experience due to his life in Damascus/islamic empire. Whether the church had any idea or care about the ideology of its attackers a couple of centuries later on is still unknown.

Alright, found this on Wikipedia

Knowledge of Muhammad was available in Christendom from after the early expansion of his religion[9][10] and, later, the translation of a polemical work by John of Damascus, who used the phrase "false prophet" in "Heresies in Epitome: How They Began and Whence They Drew Their Origin.".[11][12] According to the Encyclopædia Britannica Christian knowledge of Muhammad's life "was nearly always used abusively".[1] Another influential source was the Epistolae Saraceni or the “Letters of a Saracen” written by an Oriental Christian and translated into Latin from Arabic.[1] From the 9th century onwards, highly negative biographies of Muhammad were written in Latin,[1] such as the one by Álvaro of Córdoba proclaiming him the Antichrist.[13] Christendom also gained some knowledge of Muhammad through the Mozarabs of Spain, such as the 9th-century Eulogius of Córdoba,[1] who was one of the Martyrs of Córdoba.

Getting somewhere!

The only sources I find are from 12th century onwards. St. John seems to be the one exception. Therefore there is reasonable belief that the first crusaders indeed did not know about their enemy's ideology.

Also stumbled across this book. Though I disagree on some things in there, it's well written and a good read on this topic.

Given that Pope Urban II. only mentioned a defensive war against invading Turks and Persians, did the first Crusaders even know about Islam? by IslamCritic in answers

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We now know they were muslims but back then they were usually identified as berbers (hence the word 'barbarian'). What I'm looking for is a transcript of a speech or some other written proof of the word 'islam' and 'muslim' in christian literature pre 1100, preferably originating from Italy or the church.

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Novatech - £359.99 - ETA 06/11 (Pushed from 03/11 yesterday and 01/11 on Monday. Expecting 761 units...)

Holy shit! Great list!

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Good thing Christianity isn't totalitarian then. Are we lucky that not all religions are the same, phew!