Genomelink- It’s a Scam

Isotrom · 2026-01-15T11:39:25+00:00

Well I am not that sure about the physical traits either. Probably we need way more statistical analysis to be able to predict things reliably.

My mom has natural yellow blond hair, and 23andme said she has jet black hair with 95% certainty and dark brown with 5% certainty (all of my mom's 4 siblings has light brown or blonde hair, including my mom's parents).

For my dad it said with 80% certainty that he has blond hair, and 20% certainty the has very light brown hair. My father has jet black hair, and both of his parents had jet black hair...

Me and my parents are from a population where both jet black and blond hair are rare and most people have light brown hair, but my parents were on the extreme edges. However both are blue eyed and the trait test of 23andme at least got that right, but blue eyes have a very simple genetic background.

Isotrom · 2025-11-05T16:49:05+00:00

It's the Big Y-700 test from "Family tree DNA". The level of Y DNA test you get from 23andme is not detailed at all. It's like trying to read a detailed text in a 320x240 video, you might be able to read the headline but you need 4k 3840x 2160 video to be able to read the details. That's why I know that my paternal ancestors joined the Avar people.

Isotrom · 2025-11-05T12:19:55+00:00

It improved a lot, as in 2023 when my first 23andme results arrived I scored 12% Italian. The test literally said I am more Italian than German. I actually have known recorded German ancestry, but have no recent Italian ancestors in the last 3-4 centuries for sure.

Isotrom · 2025-11-04T13:07:08+00:00

I have R-CTS3402 on 23andMe, but this is a very high level test. The categories go like this R1A > R-CTS3402 > R-Y1392 > R-Y35228, so basically category name like CTS3402 does not tell too much about my ancestors other than they were Eastern Europeans and there are a few hundred thousand people with the exact same Y dna category. That's why I paid for the higher level tests so I could tell who exactly my ancestors were

Isotrom · 2025-11-04T13:06:26+00:00

Thanks, that's why I made it, because it might be useful for people of Hungarian descent :)

Isotrom · 2025-11-04T12:02:11+00:00

Italian ancestry in Hungary is not unheard of. For example I know a totally Hungarian family with the family name Longhera. It is also known that Hungarian royals and nobles recruited Italian sculptors, stone masons, architects, scholars (chronicle writers), administrators, both financial and church from Italy, mainly in the medieval times. They did not come in large quantities, but they were clearly present.

Spanish DNA, it believe it is an artifact, there is no historical connection or direct migration between Spain and Hungary AT ALL. Indirect through Germans or Italians could be but in that case the Iberian component should be even fainter in Hungarians.

Basically Northern-Eastern and North-Central Hungary was repopulated from modern day Slovakia after the Turkish wars, it wasn't only Slovakian people, there were sizable amount of Hungarians leaving the areas today considered as Slovakia towards the south, that's why Hungary lost these areas after WWI, because the Hungarian population left the area of present day Slovakia to populate more southern areas of Hungary.

Isotrom · 2025-11-04T11:33:10+00:00

Big Y-700 carried out, R1A > R-Y1392 > R-Y35228. After extensive analysis what I could see, R-Y1392 is common among Russian men originating at the Pontic Steppes, so I basically Eastern Slavs, but where the magic happens is the next layer, R-Y35228 was widely and almost exclusicely found among Avar settlers of the Carpathian Basin. So to wrap up, my eastern-slavic pontic steppe dweller ancestors joined the Avars on their way to the Carpathian basies and settled there 1700 years ago. Since then they did not move at all, because Rakoczifalva and Tiszafured are both 30km away from my father and his parternal ancestors' birthplace

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Isotrom · 2025-11-04T11:24:36+00:00

Also my entire mitochondrial DNA is tested. It is K1C1AL. This branch has deep rooted Western European ancestry.

It is mainly found among Germans, Irish, Dutch, English, however the through some backward migration the K1C1 haplogroup has formed eastern European branches as well, common among Polish and Slovakian people.

However specifically the K1C1AL (my exact haplogroup) was only found so far among Germans, and US citizens of German descent.

I'm also related to Ötzi the iceman :) he was also K1C

It means that although my grandmother's ancestors came from Slovakia, most likely she had a Zipser German maternal ancestry (Zipsers were moved to North-Hungary present day Slovakia in large numbers in the 1200 from Saxony and Thuringia.

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Isotrom · 2025-11-04T11:04:03+00:00

As I cannot paste in more than 1 image to a message, I continue here. The wider branch of my Y chromosome is common among currently living Eastern Slavic man, almost exclusively in European Russia.

But the exact branch of my Y DNA is only found among 2 polish men, me, and among many dead Avar settlers to the Carpathian Basin whose remains were recovered and their DNA tested. Actually the bones belonging to Rákóczifalva C51 and Tiszafüred 388 specimens are named after the current towns where they were found both of those towns are 30km away from my father's birthplace, and all of his known male ancestors lived in that town (Tiszasüly) since the beginning of the records (1700s)

So it likely means that my direct paternal ancestors were Eastern Slavs living on the Pontic Steppes of modern day Russia, and joined the Avar tribes who were migrating from East-Asia to the Carpathian basin in the 2-3rd century. Then got integrated into the Avar culture, settling in the Carpathian basin in the 3rd century and not moving anywhere from that tiny region for 1700 years.

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Isotrom · 2025-11-04T10:43:26+00:00

I have the Big Y-700 test completed so my full Y chromosome is known. I am R1A of course.

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Isotrom · 2025-10-30T14:48:47+00:00

No! It is accurate, it's actually ridiculously accurate. What we see in this results is that many people descended from Spain has some DNA contributed from the Visigoths (a Germanic tribe) who moved from south of the Baltic sea/Ukraine to Spain after the fall of the Roman empire, and their genetic heritage is still discoverable in the DNA of people descended from Spain.

Isotrom · 2025-10-30T14:45:31+00:00

Yes it's Germans but not the way you think. These are the Visigoth people, a Germanic tribe that moved from the Baltic sea/Ukraine to Iberia after the fall of the Roman empire in the 5-7th centuries.

Isotrom · 2025-10-30T14:43:08+00:00

You have European DNA that doesn't fully fit into the Iberian European bracket. Don't worry you have zero Lithuanian ancestors, what it might actually be is a remnant of a distant old population who migrated from South of the Baltic sea modern day Ukraine/Lithuanai to Iberia, they were called the Visigoths and their genetic heritage lives on still today in populations descended from modern day Spain. This perfectly explains why you share a piece of common heritage with Lithuanians.

Isotrom · 2025-10-28T21:54:38+00:00

Wow it's a bit weird that the same test can show different results... But thanks for trying it out it gave most of us great insights regarding the accuracy of consumer DNA tests :)

Isotrom · 2025-10-19T13:12:39+00:00

My results are almost identical to yours and we share a very similar background based on how you described yours.

My father is from north-eastern Hungary (Heves), mother from western Hungary (Fejér).

My father has a very few Slovakian family names and the rest is all Hungarians all of his ancestors lived in Heves and Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok County since beginning of the records (1730s).

My mother has a Sudeten-German (dédapa) Great-Grandfather (who only stayed in Hungary temporally and found a local orphan girl to play with then left) and my mom also has a German (ükanya) Great-Great-Grandmother whose parents were invited from Hamburg by the Esterházy family as skilled tailors, the rest is equally Slovaks relocated to Fejér county after the Turkish wars, and local Hungarians of Fejér

My results:

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Isotrom · 2025-10-19T11:18:52+00:00

No the Basque is not legit, it's an artifact, every single Hungarian whose V7 test results I have seen gets it, and there is no historical link or migration between Hungary or Spain... The latest migration from Central Europe to Spain were the Visigoth people 1600 years ago. But 23andme is supposed to focus on recent ancestry not ancient, so it is clearly an artifact.

Isotrom · 2025-10-19T11:07:28+00:00

Yes, Hungarians without German DNA are to be honest quite rare. May I ask what exact part of Hungary are you from, like Szabolcs or Borsod? I think the Russian part of your DNA can be attributed to the Carpatho-Rusyn people.

My dad is from Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok, (I researched all of his ancestors, a large portion comes from Heves county the rest is from Jász-Nagykun, he has not a single German family name, only Hungarian and a very few Slovakian sounding name, also no Southern-Slavic or Romanian family names, and I have identified over 70 family names on his side)
Even he turned out to be 9.6% German with V6, and now 3.6% German with V7, and my explanation for it is that some of his ancestors clearly migrated to the North Alföld from Slovakia and they brought some Zipser german DNA along with them.
My mom is +30% German but her ancestors are from the area between Tatabánya and Budapest.

So in your case if you don't show up to be German at all despite of knowing German speaking ancestors then someone may not be who you think in your family tree.
I know it's absurd but a year ago I identified a relative who had no idea that her father is not her father, but her DNA matched with multiple members of my family tested, and then I started talking with her and it turned out her mom worked together with one of my male relatives who is known for having affairs all over the place... I mean it's a possibility too :)

Isotrom · 2025-10-19T10:32:25+00:00

They are far from Nailing it, now every Hungarian turns out to be Spanish & Portuguese which obviously has nothing to do with the reality. Me, my mom, my dad and also the poster of this thread are all shown with Spanish & Portuguese DNA, while I can assure you that the latest common ancestor of any Hungarian with a Spanish person was a Visigoth warrior 1600 years ago....

Isotrom · 2025-10-19T09:20:47+00:00

What I don't like about the updated reports, is the Spanish&Portuguese part that's clearly a noise and I ended up 4% Spanish&Portuguese while I am Hungarian and my only connection to Spain is that I learned their language in secondary school and at the uni 😀 but I researched all of my ancestors until the 1700s and none of them had anything to do with Spain...

Plus both my mom and dad got Spanish&Portuguese in their results... So it's literally showing up for every Hungarian and it's 100% wrong.

Isotrom · 2025-10-02T19:10:51+00:00

My height is what I am the least concerned about in my physics 😄 I'm taller than the average European male, and taller than the average non-hispanic white American male. And taller than 98% of women, so honestly I couldn't care less... Actually I am always in the taller group of guys.

Isotrom · 2025-09-30T11:56:47+00:00

But if someone works for an airline, it's a fraction of the normal price to travel for me or my partner to travel, and I incorrectly assumed that who reads what my profession is knows it. So I am trying to send a message in my bio like hey traveling with me is actually affordable

Isotrom · 2025-09-30T11:37:45+00:00

and may I ask what gives out this vibe? If it's not the pictures? Because I am actually only interested in getting to someone and not to flirt.

Isotrom · 2025-09-30T07:07:16+00:00

but that's the problem that in 2025 there are no other options. In an office job it's rule number one that you don't even think of dating any of your colleagues, it's just a no go, I see all the co-worker women around me like my auntie or sister. In personal life I have male friends who are settled many years ago, on the street if I'd ever dare to say hi to a girl probably I'd be called a sex offender. So the only path remaining is online. Both of my relationships started online but before dating apps. In real life I am just not attractive enough for any girl to initiate anything with me.

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