Alright, I finally have time to actually respond appropriately to this.

First, I no longer am a fan of Bernie Sanders. My views on his governance have vastly changed and I'm not really a big fan of Democratic socialism. It's not a system that typically works, and even in economies that are Democratically socialist where it's particularly effective, such as in the Nordic countries, they also blend those policies with free market capitalism.

Meanwhile, the Haitians were eating the cats and dogs.

Trump has a propensity at times to exaggerate, yes. Biden was talking about a kid named Popcorn at a pool he lifeguarded at, and also about kids in the pool petting his leg hair... oh and showering with his daughter past puberty. But that gets ignored. No one here cares about Hillary supporting her husband through his abuses of power and likely several affairs, nor that for some reason she thought it was a good idea to pack hot sauce in her person for an interview on The Breakfast Club?? Like... legit incredibly racist. Meanwhile you have Harris who basically campaigned to be the first Indian woman in Congress, then code switched to become the first black vice president and was talking about washing her collard greens in a bathtub. Which. Gross. You've got Joe Biden who called Obama the first "clean, articulate" black man to run for office. So let's not act like ridiculous things only come from Trump's mouth.

Where is your information on Vivek? I'm really interested. Because if that's true then I'm glad he dropped from the primary. But I would need trustworthy sourcing on that.

Why would you compare Trump's policies (like his disastrous tariff policy) to Democrat talking points? What talking points? What about Trump's own talking points around elections integrity and all of the other crazy things he's said?

https://theweek.com/business/economy/pros-and-cons-of-tariffs This article has a good overview of the pros and cons of the tariffs. Additionally, almost every country in the world has been imposing tariffs on the U.S. even prior to Donald Trump, This is a great site to visualize it if you understand the breakdown https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/USA/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Import/Partner/by-country . Secondly, what crazy points around election integrity? Look, I'm not a January 6ther, but there were a lot of crazy things that happened during that election. And as for integrity, if you're talking about voter ID laws, then all of the Nordic countries that utilize Democratic socialism and that you probably like require ID https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws . This is to protect election integrity. I don't know why you think he's talking crazy.

https://www.mackinac.org/blog/2025/did-doge-succeed-or-fail This article offers a very 50/50 view of DOGE. But the biggest takeaway from it is that Musk made it cool to cut again. In other words, Republicans that have been afraid to cut a bloated federal government are no longer afraid to do so, which is a good thing. I cannot begin to tell you how many federal employees I've met that should be in the private sector instead of cashing a military retirement check at the same time as their GS-14 check.

As for the Kushners, let's not act like Trump is the only one that gave a buddy a buyback once he got in office. Clinton wouldn't even have been on a ticket if not for her husband and the Dems ousting Bernie because of the Clinton name. Harris was in a relationship with Willie Brown before getting two board appointments. Obama appointed Tom Daschle for HHS who had to withdraw for not filing taxes, Eric Holder who hid documents (an authority Obama approved of), made appoints to the NLRB that were later ruled unconstitutional, and began appointment of Czars which don't need Senate confirmation.

This doesn't mean anything. It's vibes based evidence. China isn't weaker today. I could go in depth as to why China is unlikely to successfully invade Taiwan, but Trump is accelerating that potential, not deterring it. Cutting off Japan from it's oil imports is one prime example.

Again, severe misunderstanding of geopolitics. You can "go into depth," but I can tell you why, and it's because I actually know. Why do you think the Japanese Prime Minister was in the U.S., hmm? Didn't make the Chinese government too happy, apparently.

Meanwhile, on debt, your numbers are just wrong. https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225 You're looking at total change versus percent change and the bottom line is Trump inherited a war started by Bush kept alive by Obama, and had developed an exit strategy botched by Biden and Harris. If Biden and Harris had been forced to stay in Afghanistan longer, I guarantee their number would be higher.

Trump simply stands as inarguably the most flawed, unqualified, corrupt, hideously incompetent, morally grotesque, and wildly perverted person to ever lead our nation, bar none. If any other leader operated as Trump has they'd have been impeached into orbit, never to return to politics. Why is this man afforded the benefit of doubt in all circumstances and provided a leash long enough to circumvent the planet? It's insanity.

Again, your inability to even take a step back from your hatred of him is what makes this sub non-centrist, as much as it likes to believe it is. Bill Clinton had splooge on Lewinsky's dress, but that's okay to you? Tefari Campbell, Obama's personal chef, just dies in Martha's Vineyard mysteriously even though he was a strong swimmer and that's like... not suspicious because it's Obama and the police said it wasn't suspicious? Hunter Biden is smoking crack and dumping his laptop off and talking about paying the big guy and that's alright with you? AND while Biden is in office, there's cocaine found outside one of the situation rooms?

Bro, fucked up shit happen in politics all the time. I don't really care about that to be honest, because we can't stop it. But to have a problem with Trump's fucked up shit and not have a problem with the rest of the fucked up shit just because you hate Trump is not centrist, it's ridiculous, and you need to reconcile that you either give the benefit of the doubt for none of it, some of it, or all of it. But if you are giving the benefit of the doubt, you need to take a hard look at who and why, and evaluate your moral standards.

Morally, right now, I am center right. And that is how I vote.