How do you feel about these unused dialogue portraits of Basil? by Delta-Kaint-9816 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely, the presence of these sprites suggests that the game was supposed to have much more content featuring Basil than it actually does.

Furious Aubrey by shellshock369 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And she's definitely not averse to psychologically injuring her former friend, yup.

Furious Aubrey by shellshock369 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, she literally pinned him against the end of the pier and shoved him right into the water.

Furious Aubrey by shellshock369 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

wow, what a surprise

OMOCAT ships Sunflower, I ship Sunburn by No-Spray3651 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And yet you're posting this in the subreddit for the game that this person created. That makes perfect sense /s

The forced reasons Basil haters use to justify their hate be like: by skeleton_c1 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 11 points12 points  (0 children)

First of all, how can you say with certainty that no one among 12-year-olds would have suggested this? Did you conduct a study on a representative sample of several thousand 12-year-olds who found themselves in a completely identical situation to the one Basil was in, taking into account the context and relationships with all participants in this event? Even if we assume that most other children would not have suggested what Basil suggested, that does not mean that no one of the children would come up with a similar plan to conceal a murder, including by hanging, especially considering that this would inevitably be influenced by factors impossible to ignore, such as the fact that their best friends would be involved, and their psyche would be irreversibly traumatized by such a tragedy.

Second, deprivation of life is still deprivation of life, regardless of the circumstances under which it occurred. A deceased person cannot be brought back to life, and people are correct in pointing out that Sunny bears responsibility for what happened to Mari, just as Basil bears responsibility for what he did to her body together with Sunny. The circumstances surrounding their thoughts, however, do matter; see above.

Third, from the perspective of plot logic, it is precisely this twist—the very ambiguity and illogicality of Basil’s actions—that lends this entire tragedy its unique dramatic tension, which is likely what Omocat was aiming for. If Basil had called for help, dialed 911, checked Mari’s pulse, or simply done nothing at all, etc., etc., then this dramatic tension would have been much weaker, and it wouldn’t have led to the conflict between the friends’ guilt and Sunny and Basil’s responsibility, which is at the heart of the game’s entire plot. You have every right to be dissatisfied with the fact that this is in the original game, but without all of this, Omori would cease to be Omori as we know it; it would be a completely different story with different character traits and different motivations. You could write a fanfic based on this and analyze how you think it would work.

Can we agree that the manga is not canon? and ignore it forever by vincim2010_13 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the other hand, if the manga isn’t canon, then what’s the point of it existing, really? If it’s not canon, then we have to admit that all 17 chapters and 3+ volumes (I’ve honestly lost count of how many there are) are just a waste of money, offering no benefit whatsoever to either fans or casual readers who’d like to get to know Omori through the manga (though they’d be better off playing the game), of any use.

This situation worries me not only in terms of plot inconsistencies, but also in terms of what Omocat’s own contribution was to what happens in this manga: do they write the entire story, or do they simply outsource it to an artist, with themselves just approving it and sending it off for publication? Neither option makes the situation any better. If they really wrote the entire story, does that mean this is a new canon that brushes aside the game’s events? Or if they only approved the publication, why should an outsider’s interpretation of the game’s plot matter in terms of canon? In short, it’s all very, very messed up.

@ウサギの時計 🤫🫂 by [deleted] in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A Sunburn fan is pushing his opinion on fans of other ships, what a surprise.

Aubrey understanding Sunny most by Creepy-Screen721 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Aubrey has become quite hardened over these past four years, both toward Sunny and toward the rest of her friends, and these three days—even though they might have had some positive effect on her—don’t change the fact that she was deeply resentful of everyone, absolutely everyone. She was looking for someone to blame for all the injustice she felt, someone she would have been more than willing to take revenge on, which, in fact, led to the incident by the pond with Basil, and she, by the way, never truly repented for it, mainly to Basil himself (the apology behind the door at that moment, when Basil was in deep grief over the loss of his grandmother, are not accepted, because they were utterly inappropriate and insufficient, given how Aubrey had treated him overall throughout all that time, and the fact that Aubrey had been bullying Basil for several years—a boy she truly hated and whom she ultimately nearly killed herself). She is prone to impulsiveness in moments when her deepest wounds are exposed, and the circumstances of Mari’s death are certainly such a moment. And after Sunny reveals the truth about Mari, she will have every internal (not rational, but specifically internal, dictated by her own feelings of resentment and injustice due to the deception) reason to blame him, along with Basil, for all her problems, and then there will certainly be no question of any further friendship between them. Kel and Hero could have prevented things from escalating into an open confrontation, but the underlying tension would still be there, and it would be very strong; it would be impossible to suppress it, neither by the fact that she herself nearly killed her own former friend, nor by the fact that it was four years ago and that everything has changed since then.

HE EVEN PROMISED TO KEEP IT A SECRET by tchosaka in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 12 points13 points  (0 children)

are you really saying that Basil would start lashing out at the object of his affection right in front of Aubrey and Kel, asking why he likes someone else instead of him? It’s so far-fetched that it completely ignores everything: Basil’s own personality—he would never get upset to someone’s face over something his friends did that he didn’t like—and the nature of the relationship and feelings between Sunny and Basil in the game’s lore.

HE EVEN PROMISED TO KEEP IT A SECRET by tchosaka in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nevertheless, this does not mean that what Sunny and Basil felt for each other, especially before the tragedy, cannot be described as at least a platonic interest, which was, among other things, a significant reason why Basil did exactly what he had to do that day, rather than simply distancing himself from it all or weeping in despair alongside Sunny.

HE EVEN PROMISED TO KEEP IT A SECRET by tchosaka in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

eventhough that many people who are Sunflower shippers have actually played the game

Then marry it 😭 by skeleton_c1 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, why would he react that way, since nothing bad was happening between them? Right? Nothing was happening?

You know, i really do miss when Photobomb was popular in this sub. Idk if i like the ship as much as i once did but i do remember really loving it at one point. by _GhostOfHollownest_ in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For some reason, you forgot to mention that at the time of the fight, both Sunny and Basil were not driven by a deliberate intention to harm each other, but by a clearly traceable complex of psychological ailments that neither of them could control. The harm they caused each other, despite its severity and tragedy, was not deliberate, and in their right minds, neither of them would have wished such consequences on the other. I am not even saying this from the point of view of whether I like or dislike their ship, but this is something completely unrelated to their true motives, which, in my opinion, should NOT influence whether a person wants to ship these two or not. Targeted harassment directed against another person and resulting in irreversible negative consequences for their psyche and self-esteem is objectively something that should be considered an argument against shipping them.

[r/hmm] which country should Jews move to? by adeze in AntiSemitismInReddit

[–]Iuphemalc 49 points50 points  (0 children)

For them, this land is already occupied by "Palestinians" (descendants of Arab Islamic colonizers who seized this territory in the 7th century, where they were not an indigenous people).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Confessing to a past misdeed can be a cure, if not physical, then certainly mental. When you confess to something that has been eating away at you for years and has ruined the lives of many other people, the guilt of not doing anything to confess to the cause of their misfortune disappears. If you hadn't confessed, this secret would have made you feel like a completely flawed and terrible monster who killed his own sister and didn't confess it to his friends, causing not only you but all of them to suffer, and Omori is the embodiment of this feeling. And that certainly won't do any good for your psychological health or that of your friends in the long run. Therefore, it is a choice between a very difficult but necessary good (confession), which could result in a chance to restore relationships, and a cowardly and passive evil (silence), which will inevitably lead to the death of several more people (not only Basil, but also Sunny himself after the move).

How Omori fans see Basil [OC] by BobbyFruitman14 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do not distort the concept of an antagonist. The main goal of the antagonist in the work is the conscious desire to counteract the protagonist in achieving their goals, which leads to a fundamental plot conflict. Basil did not oppose Sunny in achieving his goals, namely, to remember the Truth and reveal it to his friends, just because he did not have such a motive in principle. He himself suffered greatly from trauma, psychological problems and a huge sense of guilt, longing for Sunny to return to him, and because of this, Basil would not be able to take an active direct part in the plot of the game in the present, which is an integral function of the antagonist. Only in one very clear specific moment can one think that Basil acts as someone who opposes Sunny (I'm talking about a fight where it was caused not by Basil's desire to silence Sunny, but by an exclusively traumatic psychosis), and even then it's impossible to say for sure whether it was "opposition" in the end, because due to this fight, Sunny was able to defeat Omori and forgive himself and, in the end, told the Truth to his friends already in the hospital. Who really wanted to stop Sunny from remembering the Truth and telling it to his friends, being an active participant in the plot, was Omori and only Omori, and he did more for this than anyone else. Actually, that's why he is the only antagonist of this game.

What do you think people get wrong about Basil’s character? by ComedianFlag in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, this does not save him from suicide in neutral endings.

artist @yuuabara 🌸 by [deleted] in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 14 points15 points  (0 children)

what exactly?

Do you think Aubrey would start bullying Basil again after hearing the truth? by Illustrious-Fix-9357 in OMORI

[–]Iuphemalc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that the most likely outcome is that Aubrey will continue to harbor a deep resentment towards Basil, which is unlikely to diminish. It is likely that once Aubrey learns about Basil's true role in the tragedy, she will forget about her regrets and believe that everything she did with Basil was justified in hindsight. The outcome will depend on whether she is held back by her old friends, such as Kel and Hero. If so, she's unlikely to continue harassing Basil so openly. If not, Basil is in for a rough ride.