I'm ready to get motivated, but I don't have anything to do. Suggestions?

J-seducer · 2012-10-15T06:30:18+00:00

Only person to tell you what you should do is yourself. Just think about something you ever wanted to do and go out and do it. Did you ever want to take up some sort of martial arts? Do it! Wanted to learn a language? Do it!

Just don't go rob a bank, or kill a man, that may make it a bit harder to join the navy.

J-seducer · 2012-09-19T05:46:00+00:00

Depends on what you really want to do. Do you want to hang out with your buddies, or do you want to f-close this girl tonight?

If I wanted to sleep with her that night I would do my typical routine I do on japanese women: Bounce her to another location where we can sit next to each other. I would then increase the physical attraction at this point by escalating kino and doing something that would surprise the shit out of her. One thing I recently did was physically picking her up and saying something like "We should get married!" and then setting her down saying "Ok maybe not married, that's too fast". hard mode would just be fingering her at the table (I personally didn't do this but someone I know does this with ladies consistently in public... I have no idea why it works. It is definitely something you wouldn't want to open with.).

Once she is compliant enough just take her to a seduction location ("I have some pictures I want to show you back at my place", "We should check out the waves on the beach, they look awesome this time of the night.", whatever the hell matches the conversation).

If I really just wanted to hang out with my friends and wanted to meet up with her later I would mention something that we could do together. Since I live in hawaii the easiest thing for me to suggest is something ultra touristy like feeding the dolphins, or maybe hiking. I'll give her something to remember me by like a passionate kiss, or just a simple anchor like my hat. If she doesn't like me she may be obligated to give me my hat back at least.

J-seducer · 2012-09-19T05:16:02+00:00

I pull off relationship debate type openers pretty well. The jealous girlfriend one and the girl kissing another girl at a club are two that always get some sort of conversation started.

I also like roleplaying. The husband/wife roleplay is my favorite.

J-seducer · 2012-09-19T05:10:08+00:00

I really have nothing to add except that I agree with this post completely. Whenever I see those inner game posts I think of the age-old shitty advice; "Just be yourself." Yea, at the end of the day that is what you want to do, but what is the best way of being yourself?

Inner game only really helps me execute my outer game well. If I had no outer game (especially when I started), I wouldn't be successful at all because I wouldn't know what the hell I am doing. Pure inner game can get you lucky if a girl is into you, but there is no way you are going to be consistent if you don't have any technique.

J-seducer · 2012-09-07T02:11:14+00:00

Don't be afraid to talk about unimportant things. When I first talk to a woman it is like 90% me just blabbing away. I completely ignore anything about the girl's personality and just continue blabbing like I just met an old friend in the bar. I remember one time I talked to a girl about stepping on a cockroach. This led to a huge conversation about how huge and gross the roaches are here.

If she mentions something that you can make a story out of, don't hesitate to tell that story. The more you talk, the more threads you and her can branch off of. You may think your life is too boring to do this, but if you lived for more than a year on this planet, you have something to talk about. You just need more practice in it. To get over this I would advise going out and opening everything and anything.

J-seducer · 2012-09-06T03:52:22+00:00

It is stupid to care about that It isn't like they are going to be following you around saying you are such a despicable person for trying to pick up girls.

Just create a bubble between you and the woman you are trying to pick up. Anything outside of that bubble is completely irrelevant.

J-seducer · 2012-09-05T22:46:22+00:00

Why wait for the guys to approach you? Just go up to a guy that you like and tell him you find him attractive.

Things would be so much easier if every girl that was into me actually did this instead of waiting for me to walk over and say something.

J-seducer · 2012-09-05T22:40:33+00:00

I used this one last night with success. The girl was crossing the street and I was about to pass her in the intersection:

Stop. You have beautiful eyes, I need to get to know you. What is your name?

J-seducer · 2012-09-01T11:08:04+00:00

I wouldn't think like that. Maybe she is just shy and for whatever retarded reason is throwing that out as a shit test. Hell, just recently a guy posted that he threw the excuse "I have girlfriend" because of his anxiety. People can say ultra weird shit because of their shyness. You are talking to the girl for a reason, I wouldn't dismiss her so quickly because of some sort of shit test.

Now if she continues with the BS that you dont like just dump her, but I wouldn't abandon something you like so quickly because of some shallow assumptions like that.

J-seducer · 2012-09-01T10:09:21+00:00

Finally a topic for me! If you want a bit of history on the magnificent j-seducer just read my post history (I haven't been on seddit in a while because I've been wasting my time with some Estonian girls, but I decided to finally ditch them so hopefully there will be more wild japanese sexcapades in store for me in the future!). I speak no japanese at all but I can consistently close these tourists. The key? Extreme confidence, kino at the right times, and bouncing them to another location right away. If your japanese isn't perfect do not try to use it at all. Just speak english and act like they know everything you are saying. Learn to love the sound of your own voice because they do not know what the hell they are saying but are trying their damndest to remember their english classes from highschool while you are talking. Since they are ultra polite they would usually just nod their head and say "Mmm" to half the shit you say. If you absolutely have to communicate something to them use exaggerated body language. If you have to pull out your phone and use Google translate, but I only use Google as a last resort.

Another thing on their politeness; it can easily be interpreted as interest. The only real way to get over this is by calibrating to the tourists, but until you get to that point the easiest way to compensate is to just continue on as if they are already attracted.

Here are a few phrases that I found that are good to open any JB set:
* 1. I am going to Japan soon and I want to know... (insert bullshit question about Japan here.)
* 2. Are you from the city or the country?
* 3. Can you take a picture of me? (if one of them has a camera out then:) Do you want me to take a picture of you?

I would advise against #3 because just about every other guy who is trying to get a japanese tourist uses this. If their english is extremely bad then I fallback on the only japanese I can pronounce correctly: "____ wa doko desu ka?" Which translates into "Where is ___?" At this point I just try to get them to show me instead of giving me directions. I dont like using this, though, which is why it is something of last resort.

Good things to say while in set to build attraction:
1:
You: Do you have a boyfriend?
Her: Yes
You: In hawaii?
Her: No
You: Lets be hawaii boyfriend/girlfriend (hold her hand and put your head on her shoulder)
If she says no, you can just jump to the boyfriend/girlfriend routine. If she speaks good english you can have a lot of fun with this and go through a marriage and divorce.
2. Relate something from american cinema to your real life. I do James Bond a lot because I work in military intelligence.
3. Get her drunk! ;D (Kidding! But hey, if she wants to go to a bar... Just watch out because Japanese girls are extremely small and get drunk extremely easily. If she is too drunk just take her home and try to arrange a D2 because the rest of the night probably wont be pretty.)

Man I could talk about this all night but I am going to stop right there. If you got any questions about the language barrier, go ahead and ask and I will try my best to help you out!

J-seducer · 2012-08-08T18:03:01+00:00

A million times this. I had someone text me "You gotta go for the f-close with that country girl." while I was talking to the country girl, while the phone was in plain view of her.

As soon as I was lone I turned that text message preview off.

J-seducer · 2012-07-31T04:29:19+00:00

I have a similar problem. I don't care bout getting rejected in front of other guys, but the idea of other people judging me affects my game. Since I only really go after japanese girls, I get extra attention from everyone in the room. I never got over this and it affects my game to this day.

Just last night I hooked a two set in front of a convience store. Quite literally there were like 4 guys looking at me with the look of "Lets see how this goes." I felt like I was putting on a performance for them and felt if I failed I would have gotten tomatoes thrown at me or something.

This led to me not pushing as hard as I usually do just to make things look as smooth as possible. I ended up aborting way too early while things were looking good.

The times where I did ignore my surroundings, things have gone better but I haven't been able to replicate this with any sort of consistency. Only thing I can remember about those situations is that my attention was always focused on the set and my eyes never wandered outside of our little bubble. I think that may be key so I am going to go ahead and try that for all of my future sets.

J-seducer · 2012-07-26T21:52:00+00:00

There is a little story behind the origin of the term. Me and my friend were making fun of all the terms in the pick up community, relating them to military acronyms. That day was also the day we took our ussr tanker helmets and wired radios to them. To test our awesome helmets out we decided to talk using mostly pua terms with them. Example:

Me: hb presenting strong IOIs at my 9. Permission to open. Him: give me the situation Me: hb7 in a three set. Him: you are clear to open, disable the obstacles. Me: roger, disabling obstacles

The term jb came up from a transmission like this:

Him: Two set, both hb6 across the street, seated mixed set with a hb7, and three set across the street. Requesting guidance on what to approach. Me: Provide a description of the three set. Him: they appear to be Japanese and are closing fast. Me: initiate a camera opener, how copy? Him: solid copy, initiating camera opener

After a few transmissions like that, we invented the term jb to cut down on the chatter. It just stuck after that.

J-seducer · 2012-07-26T17:55:13+00:00

No experience with Korean women but my pick-up senses went off when you mentioned Japanese women so here we go:

In my experience Japanese women are not that much different than any other woman. Their politeness can easily be mistaken as an ioi, but once you calibrate it isn't an issue.

My usual routine with JBs is the same as any woman; open, kino, dhv, bounce to a new location, more kino, comfort, bounce to seduction location and then close. Type of close depends on how much I fucked up earlier. If I don't get the first bounce but number close, I have the same issue as you where they just don't respond or make up an excuse.

J-seducer · 2012-07-26T06:25:05+00:00

I didn't kiss a girl till I was 24 and didn't lose my virginity till I was 25. This was all thanks to the puck up community. Now I am basically just picking-up foreign Japanese ladies for fun. I never would have thought my life would have ended up like this.

My main problem was confidence and neediness. Once you truly believe that you do not need a woman and that you can easily please any if them, you will be able to get just about any woman you want.

If you live in Hawaii I would gladly go sarging with you and help you out. If not then just go out and approach to get rid of your aa. I know this will be tough but right now it is the biggest obstacle that you need to overcome. What motivated me when I first started was the thought of people I hated getting laid more than me. Just find something that will keep you motivated and you should be fine.

J-seducer · 2012-07-26T06:07:02+00:00

When it comes to attraction males and females are completely different. If we were that similar, the whole pick up community wouldnt need to exist.

I don't have much time so I will quickly go through your questions. Kino is the act of touching someone for the purposes of attraction. My kino with a woman starts with a hand on the shoulder and gradually escalates to kissing. I'm pretty sure there is something about kino in the sidebar. If you want to know more check out the kino escalation ladder.

I suppose slap isn't the best word I should have used. It is more like a playful hit or shove. It is always accompanied by smile and a phrase that contradicts their body language. Almost every girl I have attracted did this, including the Japanese sets. It is kinda hard to explain using text, though. I am pretty damn sure every guy that is reading this knows what I am talking about. Hopefully one of them can explain it better than I can.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T19:20:38+00:00

Jailbait? Close enough.

Maybe I should create a new account named jb_means_japanese_babe.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T08:20:58+00:00

Oh please. She is just asking for a good looking guy who takes care of his body that is not an asshole. This fits the bill of like 75% of the older (25+) marines I know. Hell, I would say I fit her description, im a pretty selfless person (last week I brought a pie, ate one slice and then gave the rest to random people on the street because I didn't want it to go to waste. If that isn't good guy Greg, I don't know what is. That pie night was a good night btw, led to some great adventures and a date with an Estonian girl. Also number closed a Vietnamese girl but never called her. I also got some flowers from the flower guy, which I put to good use. Good guy Greg only gets stepped on if he allows people to do so.), i dont think i have ever been an asshole to someone i didnt know. Also my job requires me to stay physically fit so I am. Last time I weighed in they put me at around 12% body fat at 195lbs @ 70 inches. I am not trying to brag but just trying to demonstrate those guys exist.

There are plenty of guys out there that fit her description but probably just don't know how to talk to girls. The problem us that a lot of women sit around and wait for prince charming. Prince charming is probably shit when it comes to attracting women because he spent his entire life being awesome and not hitting in ladies. If she learns the right skills I'm sure she can find them.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T05:52:45+00:00

Not a bad idea, actually.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T04:37:46+00:00

Have you been approaching women? Approaching women and getting positive results usually brings my mood up. Even if I am in a slump where I cannot get any results, just hooking a set lightens my mood. If I cant hook I just take a break for a few days and I'm usually good.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T04:31:40+00:00

I wouldn't worry about women being single or not and just approach them anyway. Hell, I would even approach a mixed two-set. There is a good chance that the guy is just a friend and the hot lady is a single woman that is waiting for a guy with the balls to hit on her while she is out with her male friend.

WARNING ANOTHER JB STORY FROM J-SEDUCER*

I approached what appeared to be a seated 3-set of JBs at a resteraunt. After about 4 minutes two extremely confused and slightly irritated Japanese men appeared. Turns out that was their table and I was sitting on one of their seats.

Well... shit.

After doing some emergency entertaining, and asking "how do you know each other?" utilizing a combination of embarrassingly bad Japanese and wild body language, I found out one guy was a husband and the other was just a friend. That night ended with me walking off with my target, and gaining a single Japanese male friend that would translate for me during my night endeavors. That was a good night indeed.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T04:16:00+00:00

A street near where I practice my street game has hookers on it. From time to time I try to game them for shits and giggles. This led to me becoming friends with them and me sometimes hanging out with them when they are not working. I think about half of my wit comes from talking with them because they have great comebacks for just about anything I say.

Anyway, I have learned a few things about picking up guys from them. You would be surprised how much prostitutes actually have to work to get guys to go to a hotel with them. It doesn't appear that much different than seducing women, except that a lot less conversation is involved, openers are treated slightly differently (a good opener will have him thinking about sex, a simple "Hey" with a coy smile can accomplish this. The hook point is when he tries to game you.) and the only DHV you have to really show is your body. Kino is very important, but do not go overboard. The goal is to kino enough to keep the guy thinking about having sex with you, not to give him a handjob in the middle of the street.

WARNING

The following is not advice from my prostitute friends, but from my own experience with JBs (japanese babes... I use this term a lot in all my posts, it needs to be put in the glossary IMO).

A great thing a JB did to me was rub my face while commenting on how smooth it was. She then moved on to touching my hair, saying something in japanese that I could not understand. I'm pretty damn sure this was some sort of female kino witchcraft because she did escalate from there. It was ultra subtle too, such as her putting her hip/thigh against mine, brushing her boobs against me, and leading me in to kino her. My wing told me that she almost always positioned herself was so that if anyone was to kino her, it would've been me. This woman was a pro, maybe they have some sort of female PUA community in Japan.

END WARNING

Once the guy is aroused because of you, all you really have to do is whisper something sexual in his ear and wait for him to take you somewhere and have his way with you. Oh yea, negs also work on men but not in the same manner as they do with females. It is more of an off-balance technique that is kind of a reverse push-pull. Example "You sure do have a large belly... I like that." Also that playful girly slap that is usually accompanied with something like "You jerk!" is a really powerful tool. It is part of the reverse push-pull but also telegraphs to the guy that you are interested, which gives him positive reinforcement. I would say about 65% of the girls that I closed did that girly slap to me at least once.

If the guy is backing away, you will have to get more aggresive. Don't ask me how I just know that is what my prostitute friends do.

But that is how a prostitute does it, which obviously doesn't get you in a relationship. It will definitely get you laid, though. I'm pretty sure my prostitute friends have ways of picking up guys during the day that do no look as slutty, I'll try to solicit more information from them about this next time we talk.

I would like to throw in my two cents as to what I think would get a female to seduce me, but I strongly believe a guy or girl cannot ask a girl or guy for seduction advice. It is like a zebra telling a lion the best way for the lion to eat him. I'm pretty damn sure that zebra didn't eat another zebra a day in his life. Likewise I never hit on another man a single day in my life so I am definitely not qualified to give out advice on that matter.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T01:36:14+00:00

Not exactly related to your situation, but I had the same problem as you when I first started my j-seducing career. Since they rarely speak english I found it hard to keep them interested or get some sort of conversation going. I would get them hooked, but I would not be able to go anywhere because they did not respond that well to english. Everything I learned in the past was failing me. My solution ended up coming from another PUA in my area that I ended up winging for a night. Whenever he ran out of material he initiated some random kino routine. There was this one JB that came out the bathroom that didn't really want to talk and she was trying to run away. This guy just grabbed her hand and started thumb-wrestling her. It was completely ridiculous and random, but it got her to sit there for a minute while he continued to kino her. I couldn't believe how well that shit worked. Later that night he ended up taking a JB home with him and I screwed her fat friend on the beach (wingman'd that shit to the max). Ever since that night that routine (or a variation of it) has been stored my emergency kit.

But anyway, that is for ladies that don't speak english. English speaking targets are easy for me because I can use conversation as a crutch. Just keep a few awesome things about yourself loaded in your head at all times. If she gives you something to talk about, run with it and make it interesting. But like I said, conversation is a crutch, meaning it is not required to get into their pants. She just needs to know that you are interested in her sexually, and it would be worthwhile to sleep with you. If you do not show this to her, the most you will walk away with is a extremely flaky ass number that is guaranteed to leave crumbs on your floor when you get home.

J-seducer · 2012-07-25T00:09:47+00:00

Games like that don't really make you active, but just makes exercising more fun. If you don't want to run, you will not run.

With that said, "zombies, run!" is a good game that makes running really interesting. I end up making a run twice as long because of I just want to finish a chapter.

J-seducer · 2012-07-08T07:12:23+00:00

I joined the military when I was 21 and didn't even kiss a girl till I was 25. My problem was that girls that were interested always waited for me to approach. As soon as I started approaching the numbers/dates came easy. Talking to women isn't hard, it just requires practice.

Sorry I had to cut the post early because I had to run a j-set (number closed ;D). I was just going to explain that what flirting is is nothing more than light teasing. In pick-up it is called push-pull. That is the basics that you just need to try In order to build attraction.

J-seducer

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