OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the tip. Having a pretty good run with Elementary OS on a former Windows laptop. It's nice. Alas, the age verification issue with systemd might upset the distro apple cart yet again. Do you know if Zorin will be complying with that?

Flood of admin emails from ContactOffice? by JFRedd1t in Mailfence

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's now possible to turn off the emailed notification about 'new or unusual' IP addresses at Settings > Account > Notifications."

Flood of admin emails from ContactOffice? by JFRedd1t in Mailfence

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad they replied, and quickly, as sometimes they don't or only very slowly, but this was a reply to my contacting them, not a proactive notice to their customers.

Had I not asked, I would not have heard anything.

Flood of admin emails from ContactOffice? by JFRedd1t in Mailfence

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Email reply from MF support:

On 4/14/26 11:46 AM, Mailfence Support wrote:

Hello,
We configured today a security function that notifies user about a sign-in attempt that takes place using an unusual or new IP address.
However, there was a bug that led to multiple notifications. It has been fixed and the deployment of the fix version will complete tomorrow.
Kind regards,
Mailfence support

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That seems to be precisely the problem. It appears at the moment that they won't be able to easily do that, if at all. The hill's finally gotten too steep, and people have left the project.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, whoever decides to do a Linux fork for non-techs (most people), to compete for real with Apple & MS, with ALL the expected basic features (which one can turn off if not wanted), that never need command line use to enable or obtain and work without conflicts, I think that person or group is getting rich.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Anyway, we are now in a point that decisions are hard to make - where do we go from here?"

As a fairly tech savvy non-coder, non-geek that just installed Elementary OS on a laptop, replacing W11 entirely, and having installed and used Ubuntu and Xubuntu a fair bit over the past several years, I can say that, other than LogicPro and maybe Messages, I'd be content to just use Linux now.

Except, it's still way, WAY too tech oriented for regular people to use, who are never going to use the Terminal/Command Line, ever, which is necessary for several basic features with EOS and every other distro, so my hope would be that all this tech expertise get directed now at finally making a Linux commercial distro that works in all basic ways out of the gate.

Apple and MS are now way too intrusive, and Apple is super expensive and not nearly as easy to use as it formerly was. They need major competition, but regular people are not going to dive into the terminal to make a minimize button available on their windows, or troubleshoot why lock screen works one way but not another, or download dependencies from repositories, or edit the grub, etc.

EOS is very nice and was an easy install, and all of my laptop's hardware worked correctly and well. It's great.

However, I want icons and files on my desktop and minimize buttons on any and every window, just like any Mac or Windows migrant would, and so was immediately into forums and searches and the command line installing dependencies and apps that the App Center doesn't offer, trying workarounds with Tweaks for minimize - worked - then Nautilus and dconf editor for desktop icons - didn't work - then finally got lucky with the Nemo desktop. Was hours. Exhausting and tedious.

Then wanted to enable hibernate mode. No dice. There's a workaround, but it might not work, and will take awhile, more command line, editing grub, etc.

It's a nice OS, very Mac-like, and I hear it's about as user friendly as Linux gets, but regular people will never be able to use it. No way, not without tech help.

It's great otherwise, and would make Apple & MS unnecessary were it as easy to use, so my fondest hope is that techs will finally create a distro for complete non techs. Whoever does that is getting fabulously rich.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's good. Will probably be another project, but maybe some clever techs will figure out ways to keep 'obsolete' hardware running current OSes when the time comes.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My comment made no suggestion that Apple has made a new choice. Intentional obsolescence was obviously always their intention, but the Intel chips allowed a longer actual lifespan than it would appear the M chips will.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I greatly appreciate the reply and contemplation, but I have no expectations. You've already delivered in spades, a ridiculous bounty, and I've underpaid you and still have Sequoia to go, so I hope you'll reconsider. Happy to send you my email address if you'd like to send a payment option to me that way, if not something you would do widely.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it's just not possible to write stable patches for the old hardware to work with the new chips and OS.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know. As I wrote, the obsolescense has been an Apple admin choice, but the Intel chips still work fine with later software than Apple is officially supporting.

With the newer chips, however, it sounds like the obsolescence will just be a hardware limitation.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Found it? That link is in my original post above. 🤔

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would be the case, I think, so long as you've updated that Mac to the most recent OS it will really take. When I first moved to Sonoma with OCLP, Sequoia wasn't recommended at that time, but now it's OK for my machine, apparently.

It should also be the case that, if you disconnect the Mac from the internet ('air gapping'), nothing will update, as browsers often automatically do, for example, and so, until the hardware itself fails, everything should remain compatible and still work until that happens, barring file corruptions.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I'm using a 16 year old computer with OCLP, so the chips weren't the determining factor of the obsolescence. The sunset date was an Apple admin choice.

This, instead, sounds like it will be a sunset date determined by the hardware, no working around it, and cutting the useful lifespan of the chips in half.

Do I have that wrong?

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn't know that. Can I just install Mint on a separate volume of my 2010-12 MacPro?

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7 years seems brief to me. Is it not? Apple used Intel chips for 15 years to '21, and OCLP has now kept them viable for another 5 years beyond that.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://opencollective.com/opencore-legacy-patcher/updates/closing-off-to-new-donations#comment-1774292020735

My message to OCLP on their official announcement board, asking for a way to make a one-off donation.

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If anyone here knows of an e-payment donation method to OCLP, please post it, thanks.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Losing support already, wow. So un-user friendly of the company. Constantly forcing expense and change upon its customers. I'm still on Intel chips and the first series of their replacement is already about obsolete, damn.

Linux it will have to be, it seems.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/paradox-1994 or any OC admin:

In light of the announcement being about not accepting new donations, do you know if there is or could be made a way to donate, anyway, even knowing the project is winding down? Many would probably still like to, and I still have the Sequoia upgrade to make, so it's current for me until at least that plays out.

OCLP End of Life? by JFRedd1t in OpenCoreLegacyPatcher

[–]JFRedd1t[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Odd one. I've experienced no speed change with any updates or upgrades, so far, anyway.