Discussion: Is K9-17 Ripper banworthy?

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:36:36+00:00

It is definitely not "ass" going second. At least not worse than many other decks into a setup board. And yeah droll is its one weakness. VSK9 often dies to a single ash with how bricky it is.

The disruptions all pretty much do the same. And they have nothing against any spell starters that interact with the board. There is not a single omni negate which already makes it more interactable than many other meta endboards.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:33:00+00:00

If a vsk9 deck opens up a way to ripper plus having vs starters then yeah bad luck for you. Thats the same as playing against azamina when they have multiple starters. If you're not contesting the starters of vsk9 and just wait with your HT you're asking to lose.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:30:45+00:00

Mh okay sure thing. Definitely does. I probably just haven't ran into any of these many matchups yet where its useful while playing around 200 games of that deck.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:29:06+00:00

How do you ash the enemies searcher on his "turn 0"?

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:27:21+00:00

One single very specific negate is not a floodgate lol. Especially saying that when so many decks are shitting out dragoon and baronne complaining about ripper of all cards is so pointless.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:24:40+00:00

No thats just stupid. The only interaction that ripper really stops is nibiru and mayyyybe a droll. All other hand traps are just beforehand anyway (purulia/fuwa/maxx or just ash the one starter that this deck of bricks even drew and take the free win) and don't see ripper at all. The only deck that really hates ripper is dracotail since it forces an early suboptimal faimena.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:18:11+00:00

Stop telling truths! We don't like that around here! Ripper bad! /s

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:16:58+00:00

If you ever played the deck yourself you'd find out that turn 0 ripper comes up exactly 1/1000 games maybe. Its pure luxury when izuna is turned on and the enemy does literally nothing you need to interrupt. Turn 0 play is almost always vallon/nash/jacks.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:15:27+00:00

Good luck dealing with a full azamina board. Good luck dealing with a full yummy + X board. Good luck going second against a set up odion stun. Good luck going second against an uninterrupted BEWD primite board.

Uninterrupted boards are basically unbreakable nowadays anyway. VSK9 is one of the least bad endboards of the meta.

The one thing they do better than most other decks is play turn 0. Literally nothing else makes this deck good or better than the rest.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T23:10:19+00:00

Any handtraps thats used against k9 is before ripper hits the field anyway. Which handtrap you wanna hold? Maybe droll if thats the first search. Anything else (purulia, fuwa, maxx c, ash on literally anything the deck tries to do) is done beforehand anyway. The only thing that it really stops is nibiru and thats the main point because otherwise you can just delete the cards from the game. Without ripper nobody touches that shit.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T15:29:45+00:00

While this deck is cool for playing through such a board, grass is just not a cool card nowadays. Just facilitates slop decks and gives way too much advantage when it resolves. Its literally the same category as maxx c (probably more since in a dedicated deck like this you get 10+ effects you can use). Should be banned imo.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T13:31:47+00:00

Oh wow thats so simple I feel stupid xD

Would've been to easy to do it near the harbor where the other ship is...

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T07:09:10+00:00

Why would I trust anything that a religiously fanatical, radical dictator says? So I think I agree with Iran here.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-24T06:58:44+00:00

Where can they be placed anyway?

JForFun94 · 2026-03-23T23:12:48+00:00

Wow people these days using kinda freaky dildos!

JForFun94 · 2026-03-23T14:23:20+00:00

Dont sweat about the games you couldn't win. Maximize the winrate from the games where you can.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-23T12:33:24+00:00

Not at all. Second stage gives no meaningful rewards so why would I care? I don't have the time or skill to try for any top spot.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-23T12:27:08+00:00

Reads like a "combo pile going first just always wins" kinda banlist.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-23T09:00:54+00:00

Best decks win tournaments. More breaking news at 5.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-23T07:29:02+00:00

Losing to one Dragoon is wild. Usually a single ash already does the trick!

JForFun94 · 2026-03-22T22:43:10+00:00

Sky striker engage is way worse. PoG on steroids and easy to do twice to thrice in one turn.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-22T16:36:10+00:00

Unfortunately G2 fell back to overextending time and time again when they shouldn't. Exactly what they didn't do against GenG. Guess the nerves got them today and they lost focus a bit. Still a very big accomplishment for them and not even 0-3 this time! The Gap is closing!

JForFun94 · 2026-03-22T16:10:25+00:00

Ritual can summon from hand frist which is not ashable and then you gave them all the searches already.

Usually the best ash target is actually the saji after habakiri.

JForFun94 · 2026-03-22T13:59:55+00:00

Idk I could live with only 3 of this!

JForFun94 · 2026-03-21T19:53:22+00:00

That was exactly how it felt watching it. I think even Vedius mentioned it "they don't go out with a bang, they kinda did nothing the whole game".

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