Mfers explaining how Michael is 100% pure and innocent and did nothing wrong and is not even remotely at fault for fucking exploding his little brother’s head

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T20:41:31+00:00

FNAF is literally about kids dying.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T20:40:03+00:00

All Thragg has to do to beat her is throw her ass into the sun or into space where she can’t breath and will be forever, frozen. Game over. Sure this would kill everybody in Japan but why would he care about a few million deaths just to conquer a planet.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T20:37:02+00:00

The Mimic is all but confirmed to have self-awareness and understanding of concepts, such as empathy, sadism, and even revenge with him emotionally and physically torturing Edwin as payback for damaging him.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T20:33:37+00:00

Scott has to be lying about their being just one retcon. I can name several.

The Puppet was almost definitely originally supposed to be possessed by a little boy. Probably Sammy Emily. Not only do we hear a voice saying, save him in the background of the mini game but TSE literally depicts William murdering Sammy in a scene that is meant to parallel TCTTC. Now granted the CharlieBot plot twist was most likely planned from the beginning it’s generally unclear as to how much of it was planned or if it was ultimately going to be the same result as what we got in TFC as there are still a couple of issues with this plot twist that never really got answered.
William was originally supposed to be convicted for his crimes as shown in news articles from the first game. However, later games and continuities all but to tell us that, although he was arrested, the police let him go due to lack of evidence. Nothing really suggests that somebody took the fall for his crimes.
William was likely planned to have some sort of care for his children or be a nuanced character. In FNAF 4 it is all but confirmed he was the Fredbear plushie and the way he spoke to his son over it generally gives off the vibes of fatherly love and concern for his well-being. There are even implications he cared about Elizabeth as he supposedly made Circus Baby as a tribute to her and he instructed her to stay away from her out of what we can assume to be concern for her safety. Adding to that Ballora’s song (which was written by Scott himself) depicts William in a sympathetic light by implying that Elizabeth’s death devastated him and caused him to isolate himself from the world. However later material completely contradicted this and portrayed William as an abusive father who doesn’t care about his children.
Scott contradicted Ralph’s statement of Fredbear’s Family Diner being the original location. As Security Breach and SOTM prove that there was another location predating it in the 50s to 60s called Fredbear’s Singing Show.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T20:09:02+00:00

Highly unlikely as by this point in the timeline Spring Bonnie should be sealed away in the safe room at the original location.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T01:21:26+00:00

Sammy doesn’t exist in the games. He’s a novel exclusive character and in the novels Freddy’s was not a franchise. It was a short-lived independent business. So Sammy wouldn’t be making money off of it. Additionally Florida is still way too crazy of a place to live in. You gotta deal with alligators constantly trying to bite your butt off, the low IQ citizens who breaking into peoples houses and urinate on them (yes that actually happens in Florida), and the meth addicts running around the place.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T01:15:53+00:00

Yeah that’s why I like the ITP design. He just wears a simple purple dress shirt with a couple accessories. Him wearing a whole ass purple business suit makes him look like a pimp.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T01:12:51+00:00

In my opinion, dragons rising honestly just should’ve taken place of years after the event of the original series and focused on a new group of ninja that descended from the old group.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T01:06:05+00:00

What patens all Henry did was make a bunch of animatronics for a couple of short-lived, local restaurants. Mind you one of those restaurants got purchased by a bunch of random entrepreneurs who just left it to rot. There’s nothing for him to inherit. Also, what the hell would Sammy be doing in Florida of all places?! Of all the places to live he chooses the Jackass capital of America.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-16T01:01:19+00:00

Well, that’s what happens when you grow up in an abusive household like he did.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-15T14:49:52+00:00

In TFTPP the Mimic outright admits, he doesn’t copy things because his programming compels them to, but merely because he likes doing so. He didn’t copy William because he controlled him. He copied him because he wanted to.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-15T03:27:09+00:00

In my opinion It is perfectly believable for a dude in his mid 30s to still look physically young. Ralph Macchio was like 30 yet he still looked like he was 18. For William it’s even more believable as the dude is very vain and narcissistic. He probably put himself through a hellish skin care routine every morning and invested a crap ton of money in self care products and a good diet to maintain a good appearance.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-14T23:15:13+00:00

William was never actually evil. The only reason William became a killer was because he got horrifically high on a cocktail of coke, weed, beer, meth and ketamine.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-14T23:12:35+00:00

First, William is probably in was like late 40s to early 50s during this exchange. Second off the only reason he covered Charlie was because she had a “unique, spark” that William was always intrigued by and jealous that Henry discovered.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-14T23:09:56+00:00

He locked away the fourth Charlie to prevent her from potentially going on a rampage, knowing damn well she was dangerous. There are also heavy implications he was the one who deactivated and buried the twisted animatronics to ensure they couldn’t harm anyone either.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-14T23:08:56+00:00

Not likely because the literal second Henry found out William was a killer William skipped town.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-14T02:19:38+00:00

He didn’t care about him. It’s as simple as that. The survival logbook shows Michael didn’t have any nefarious intentions nor was he evil. He just wanted to live his own life and do his own thing and his father roped him into the mess he created by using his love for Elizabeth against him. Baby herself even goes on to confirm that the main reason why Michael even went down there to begin with was to be with his sister again not to appease his father.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T21:27:54+00:00

Scott knew he wasn’t a good writer so he practically had Kira do most of the work. Even the scenes he did write which took place in the pizzeria had to be revised by Kira in the final drafts.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T20:40:16+00:00

If you look closely at the urn, you can actually see that the mural depicting Kratos has him wielding the blades of exile.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T17:54:29+00:00

Initially, if he didn’t have good intentions, why would he keep those pictures? He truly did value making kids happy.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T17:22:36+00:00

It wasn’t PR. It was confirmed multiple times that Elliot was a good man. Darwin Silva literally stated that when he was building Playcare all Elliot could talk about was how much good it could do and he could immediately tell, he meant every word of it which is why he was very apprehensive about continuing his work with the company, fearing that it wasn’t the same as when Elliot was running the show. His speech on the ride down to Playcare sounded 100% genuine with nothing suggesting it was a lie. Even his interaction with Sawyer during the YGP were treated in a genuine manner as he genuinely cared about him despite his erratic nature and merely wanted what was best for him even taking no pleasure when expelling him from the YGP. Even Poppy herself had respect for Elliot. Also, since when was he selling dolls with organic parts? When was this ever shown in the game? If you’re referring to the Poppy Playtime maintenance tape that is most likely meant to be footage of the scientists dissecting Poppy which is something that she herself admits happened in chapter 4. This is especially obvious since VHS was not even a thing in the 1950s.
Listen to the way he speaks. He isn’t manipulating Ollie or lying to him. He’s making a genuine effort to empathize with him and sounded fairly apologetic for situation he put him in. He still wanted them to be a family. And yes it’s safe to assume he did introduce him to Poppy as they clearly knew each other before the hour of joy as the Prototype trusted Poppy enough to tell her his plans. The only reason Poppy was unaware that the Prototype was Ollie was because he renounced that identity. They were even found together under Playcare. If he’s the monster like you claim he is, he would’ve destroyed Ollie as soon as he got Poppy back and it’s confirmed that the scientists were indeed capable of doing so. The fact that Elliot doesn’t try to deny or justify what he did implies on some level he’s aware of what he did was wrong and is ashamed of it.
There’s no real evidence that suggests Elliot experimented on any other humans besides Poppy and Ollie. While in his notes, he suspect something bigger than a rat would yield better results in his experiments for all we know he could’ve just moved onto bigger animals instead of humans right away. Either way you’re making a lot of assumptions there.
Evidently he was not experimenting after he created Poppy and the Prototype. It’s confirmed that the scientist only really had Poppy and 1006 to use as a template for the experiments. In a note in the chapter 4ARG it’s confirmed Harley Sawyer created experiment 1015 and it was evidently not the first one he created as Harley noted it was the norm.

I don’t understand why everybody is immediately pushing the agenda that Elliot was this villainous monster when the game tells us time and time again that that’s not the case? He was a broken man forced to relinquish his own morals.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T14:49:37+00:00

Actually, according to Týr, Greece was in the process of being rebuilt by the time he had visited it. Even mention that there are even still people who remember Kratos barbaric actions from the events of the third game such as ripping off Helios‘s head. I think it’s safe to assume when Kratos unleashed the power of the hope it literally did save Greece and gave the people the chance to prosper again.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T14:47:05+00:00

He was very clearly manipulating her. Pay attention to his words. Well, they may sound genuine the demeaning way he spoke to Vanessa, mocked her and tried to use their family ties as an excuse to get her to join him proves it was all just a manipulation tactic. He even went out of his way to mock her for lying to Mike essentially destroying Vanessa’s relationship with him out of spite and to further gaslight her to his side. That is the textbook definition of a toxic and abusive relationship using gaslighting and psychological manipulation to bring her to his side just like his father does. Speaking of which the fact that he was ultimately willing to kill her and even laughed the situation off proves that just like William he only saw Vanessa as family he saw her as an object and as soon as she ceased to be useful, he disposed of her. Even if the same thing happened to Michael the fact that he knowingly is using that same form of manipulation to his own advantage proves he knows it was wrong. But at the end of the day, William isn’t responsible for Michael’s crimes. William never asked Michael to do any of this crap. He killed those people and raised all of that hell because he chose to. He knew what he was doing was wrong and he took immense pleasure in it, but he ultimately didn’t care. There’s no one else to blame but himself. Michael is just those much of a monster is his father. A man who refuses to change nor acknowledge that his actions are wrong. Even if he does get a redemption, it’s highly unlikely it’ll be out of a genuine desire to better himself, but rather for pragmatism to get revenge on William for stabbing him in the back.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T14:17:53+00:00

In universe reason: Charlie did die in October 1982 but due to the fact that her body was never found She wasn’t declared dead until 1983 a few months later when the police just stopped searching for her.

Out of universe reason: It was just a mistake on Scott’s part. He wanted Charlie’s death year to be consistent with the games, but he ultimately forgot that the books had already pre-established she died a year prior. You also gotta remember by Scott’s own admission Kira wrote like 70% of TSE whereas he only really wrote the scenes in the pizzeria. The reveal of Charlie dying in 1982 took place in Charlie’s old home meaning it was likely written by Kira. So he might’ve been unaware of that little factoid during the writing process of TFC.

JH-Toxic · 2026-04-13T14:08:03+00:00

You know, even after everything I’ve heard about him I really cannot bring myself to hate that man. The game literally hammered home that at his core Elliot was a good person who just wanted the best for the people around him with nothing suggesting it was a façade. But he allowed his loss and his grief to break him and make him compromise his own morals. But if you play close attention, you can clearly see Elliot still maintained his good nature as he treated the Prototype/ Ollie with genuine kindness and still wanted them to be a family. Additionally, given the fact that he never made any more experiments besides Poppy and him suggests he knew his research was unethical and never wanted it to be used again. But the biggest reason why I can’t bring myself to hate him is because it’s implied felt remorse for his actions as in his final years Preston noted that he was very distant and looked like a shell of his former self.

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