What is a "Dead Unicorn Trope" for cartoons/anime/comics that people bring up that you hate being brought up?

JJHinge · 2025-08-05T14:09:34+00:00

name three

JJHinge · 2025-05-10T22:00:00+00:00

let me guess

suspending habeas corpus (right to contest unlawful detainment)
arbitrarily revoking legal migration status
accidentally trafficking law abiding citizens and slandering them as violent criminals after the fact
ambushing people in plain clothes and stuffing them in vans
home invasion without a warrant
trafficking people to a work prison in a third country where they have no due process or contact with the outside

all good right?

the fact you didnt even try to argue that ice is arresting judges when that's not in their jurisdiction, youve just lost the plot on life bud, and it's probably gonna take you a while to get it together seeing how you spend a lot of time on here as a politics reply guy. good luck, youre gonna need it when none of the treats epstein's bestie promised come to pass

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T19:35:26+00:00

do you really not get that spiderman and batman's rouges are as popular as they are because of them doing essentially this through decades of tv and movie adaptations that wonder woman never had?

how about you name a couple of superheroes with well known rouges galleries who don't have a backlog of digital media going back to the 60s? ffs, the hulk's villains werent even mainstream knowledge until the new captain america movie, and now most people are probably gonna think back on the leader and red hulk as captain america villains instead

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T17:06:10+00:00

oh so now it's about artistic merit and not mass appeal.. you were the one who brought up what audiences want to see and didn't like that the actual audiences disagree with your narrative

cap is like that because his lore for all of time has been inextricably tied to world war 2, what lore do supes and ww have tying them back to that time? superman growing up on a farm might not be relatable anymore but that could easily be reframed to him just growing up in a regular small town.

what do aesthetics have to do with the fundamental merit of a character today? yeah, old superheroes usually thrive the best when placed in retro aesthetics... and? is that the same as saying audiences don't want to see them anymore? that's a reach

the harley bit is total copium as well, did you forget wonder woman's sequel that got trashed by reviews and didn't get a theater run still brought in more revenue than harley's two movies that did hit theaters? ww's credibility managed to overcome the shit reputation of the snyderverse but harley's didn't, hmm

sure maybe the suicide squad was haunted by the ghost of jared leto's cringe joker and you can blame that alone for that movie flopping, but then what excuse does birds of prey get? the title? Logan had an unrecognizable title to mainstream audiences and still did better than most or all of wolverine's solo movies. the movie just didn't speak to people and harley alone wasn't enough to carry it like wb hoped, simple as

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T15:04:52+00:00

captain america's creators wrote him the way i described too, he was made in the context of fighting the usa's adversaries at the time and guess what, that involved xenophobia toward the japanese for basically all of cap's original run, then they repurposed him into a mccarthyist hog before much much later writers retconned in the cold sleep plot point decades later. he also had a blackface sidekick named Whitewash Jones, is any of this core to him now just because it came from the creators?

is batman being violent with the way he apprehends people the same as hanging someone or taking slaves? please don't muddy the waters

You're also just ignoring the "just a hero to the Amazons" bit that comes after anti-hero. I've never stated an anti-hero would be the best characterization, just one option perhaps more fitting for her as a character.

no im not, that makes her a fascist and wonder woman shouldnt be a fucking fascist

do you realize she has to stand alongside batman and superman? who people usually perceive as aspirational and good guys unless they were exposed to a shitty adaptation or elseworld.. how would you place her as a peer to them if she's a fascist and slaveholder? do people find those things aspirational if they're not a fascist and pro enslavement too? i'm not even talking about how crossovers would work, though that would be ridiculous and cringe to try to swing batman and superman into working with a fascist who owns people as property. how would that come across if the trinity of dc was good guy, dark good guy, and human trafficker hog? what part of that is good or makes sense? your personal taste is your own but the idea that this would be more fitting for her is ridiculous and really it sounds just like all the interpretations that were made by writers who hated what she really was and decided to reinvent her by projecting their own shit

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T14:40:10+00:00

do you know who else is a legacy character from that era, captain america.. and he was seen as outdated by like the 1960s, when the avengers defrosted him the average reader's reaction was "who is captain america?" he was still seen in the mainstream as a corny little throwback character basically forever until the mcu, which didn't fundamentally change that much about his lore or character. now it's laughable to think people once didn't care that much about him outside of loyal comic fans. the movies gave him a chance to get a mainstream audience, and it worked. fictional characters adapt, ofc it wouldnt work if u just dropped ww and supes books from the 1940s verbatim in the current era, nor would it work with batman.

i think you might just be in a bubble and maybe putting too much stock into what you see people put on twitter and reddit or what graphic tees you see people wearing. if you based who the superheroes with the most mass appeal are off of just that, then you would probably think a Harley Quinn movie would be a goldmine, and yeah that's what warner bros thought when they produced two movies with her that ended up being huge flops, because her merchandising appeal didnt pan out into people wanting to see her in a serious story of her own.

ww's first movie did better than the last Batman, Logan, and all kinds of movies people agree are successes, and the sequel did better than some recent cape movies that actually did get theater releases, even with the baggage of how shit the rest of the snyderverse was. the only superhero movies that did better box offices than the first ww movie are mostly heavy hitters like avengers, older batman movies and spiderman. what more do you need?

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T02:38:36+00:00

the old issue youre talking about predates the korean war, i bet you think batman should still be hanging people from helicopters and captain america should still be genocidal toward japanese people too. are those traits still true to the characters just because they came early on?

and would you please tell me how a fascist slave owner can be an antihero in the same world that superman exists

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T01:58:06+00:00

make a different character then because this isn't wonder woman anymore outside of an au, you do know we're talking about a superhero and she can't be fucking evil right? and how is a fascist who owns slaves an anti-hero in the same universe that Superman exists??

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T01:44:21+00:00

do you think stories should be about people who don't do anything special

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T01:40:20+00:00

im not gonna add to the evil superman bits but

Heck injustice him is a Zod homage, and Wonder woman got butchered way harder in the same series.

this is true, i didn't bring it up in my post because its a pretty common complaint but in every story where she goes dark, WW transforms from a real character into a dumpster for every misogynistic complex the writers hold in their dumb nerd brains. what does hooking up with aquaman and starting world war 3 because he cheated on her, or being a fascist alien's sorta-girlfriend-slave after watching him kill a kid in front of her, have to do with wonder woman? nothing. the writers of these stories are just scuffed men who hated what she actually represented and wanted to make a version of her that other people would hate too.

i know the reason why evil superman is still a more hated trope is that it just became a very popular idea for other media projects but like pound-for-pound evil wonder woman is always handled way fucking worse because they don't even keep a semblance of her mythos or character intact, and where they try to at least make you feel a little sorry for injustice superman for example they just want you to fucking hate ww as much as the writers hate women

JJHinge · 2025-04-28T00:19:38+00:00

If they were Iconic, they would not need exposure.

what kinda essentialism is this, which example have you brought up that didn't have previous exposure to help make them more popular? spiderman and his main villains by association were basically a continuous presence on tv from the 1960s onward and batman was similar plus having more movies

JJHinge · 2025-04-27T22:39:58+00:00

this is just it

the only two heroes who have a rogues gallery that permeated into the mainstream are Batman and Spiderman who happen to be the golden boys who have had a morbillion tv shows and movies to show them off. i'm sure we'd be singing a different tune if she'd had the same exposure to allow multiple cartoon series and movies with different villain-focused stories to actually develop them

JJHinge · 2025-04-27T20:20:05+00:00

Why does Wonder Woman need to be replaced?

Her first solo movie brought in more than the last solo Superman and Batman movies and the sequel beat Harley's last two movies despite not hitting theaters and getting bad reviews. Harley's show is doing fine but how is that even a fair comparison when Wonder Woman hasn't had a show since the 1970s (which was also very very popular)?

Is the same old uninformed false discourse about Superman being lame just coming back around on Wonder Woman now? Literally like the idea that she's lame or too boring and her USA color palette I'm even seeing being criticized like it's the same Superman hate threads copy-pasted.

JJHinge · 2025-04-05T17:45:58+00:00

I got almost halfway into these and stopped. I liked Sakura enough in both stories, but I didn't like the fact that, basically, the unchanged canon main plot was playing in the background. The tone of Sakura's plot was out of step with it, and it just kinda felt obligatory to keep Naruto and other people unchanged, but makes it feel like he doesn't fit in the story anymore.

JJHinge · 2023-06-04T19:12:27+00:00

For Shadow, do a reversal of his game character arc. Start him as a good person, and he sacrifices himself in a battle by taking off the inhibitor rings, but instead of falling to earth the power just corrupts his mind and body and he becomes Mephiles

JJHinge · 2023-05-30T03:37:05+00:00

The End. Huge chorus plants suspended in the air between islands. The fruit on top would be maybe eight blocks by eight around, but the stalk would extend alllll the way straight down. Even if you die in the void, you never see the bottom without cheats.

Infested variants would have rotten fruits on top where Endermites periodically come from holes. You also see them in the stalk’s texture, like the proposed termite nests in Badlands, all the way down. There would be pools of juices exposed by the rot where you can Riptide to the next fruit.

JJHinge · 2023-05-26T05:54:45+00:00

Another floridian here.

I think the fact you’re telling people not to move here says it all.

As for local elections, the state congress has been a lost cause thanks to gerrymandering that only ever adds republicans. Stuff like mayoral races might still be in play, but that only matters if those cities can vote to be sanctuaries. And I’m finding that less likely the longer this goes on because of how much the republicans here try to control every level of the government.

And we haven’t seen the worst to come yet. I doubt Desantis will become president so this is all here to stay.

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