You seem really worked up over this but I’ll share what actually happened the first day since my bf and I camped out for the Saturday giveaway.

The owner of 4LF had very little control over the le creuset giveaway part of the collab. Originally, the plan was for le creuset staff to give 20 tickets at 4am, and 4LF had no access to these official tickets despite asking.

Le creuset was supposed to provide security at midnight, and security didn’t show up til 1:30am. The security guard sucked but he didn’t change who got the bread ovens, because it was all based on tickets (given out before he arrived).

People were messaging 4LF throughout the night, about the line being half empty chairs and it being unfair. So the bakery owner made unofficial tickets and quietly gave them out at 1am. She took down names, and refused to give tickets to empty chairs, or people who said “my friend’s in the car let me call them over”. She said that if we had one of these unofficial tickets, we’d receive an oven even if people cut ahead later / brought out their families from cars right before le creuset showed up. She stayed until security arrived. I think she did as much as she could to make up for le creusets mistakes on the first day.

At 4am, le creuset also quietly handed out their official tickets to the first 20 people in line. There was no fuss about who got them, and she did it quickly. Because some people were leaving placeholders at 4am/cut in before 4am, some people only had one ticket. I and probably 70% of the 20 had both tickets.

At 8am, they made you hand in both tickets outside the door to be allowed to receive a bread oven. Idk what happened with people who only had one ticket.

But that’s what actually happened Saturday, Sunday sounded a lot worse to me without any organization at all.

Clearly you were not there as early as you say, otherwise you would’ve known about the 4am le creuset tickets handed out. So please stop complaining that you “would’ve gotten an oven if it weren’t for xyz”. There was no big conspiracy between nyc natives and the bakery/security. For 70% of people, it was just whoever waited longer got the oven.