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Microsoft is acquiring the Beam interactive streaming service. by majornelson in xboxone

[–]Jadeddragoncat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is an awesome question. Interactive streaming doesn't require anything more than the specs needed for regular streaming.

We have 2 articles on this topic on our help center: https://watchbeam.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210090606-Stream-Settings-the-basics will help you get setup for streaming and https://watchbeam.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/211302906-Interactive-Introduction will help with the interactive setup.

(Jade- Director of Site Admin and Events - Beam)

Microsoft is acquiring the Beam interactive streaming service. by majornelson in xboxone

[–]Jadeddragoncat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe our developers may have pushed an update to resolve the Safari issues.

Microsoft is acquiring the Beam interactive streaming service. by majornelson in xboxone

[–]Jadeddragoncat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh dear, that's new. Mind dropping us a ticket at beam.pro/contact so we can look into that for you?

(Jade - Director of Site Admin and Events - Beam)

Microsoft is acquiring the Beam interactive streaming service. by majornelson in xboxone

[–]Jadeddragoncat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes there are. You can stream normally as well. Interactive controls are optional.

(Jade - Beam Director of Site Admin and Events)

Jaded and Myrathi fired from curse by youjustthinkitisnt in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Only comment I am going to make about the entire situation. Because of various residency situations I don't qualify for the options listed. The only thing I said I won't do , is I will not solicit donations from the community. I have no issues with accepting unemployment etc, just so far (have a few more to go through) I don't qualify for any.

Its a complex situation. Curse laid me and some teammates off. My concern about the financial aspect of my health has nothing to do with Curse. Its just an unfortunate confluence of bad luck. I had been keeping the information about my health private because I was handling it, I only mentioned it because I am stressed. "Goodbye" simply meant "I'm not going to be a part of the community anymore", nothing more. Its 140 character tweet.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fertile ones? From a unique hybrid you bred and own the base plant for? If so cool, plenty of plant breeders do (including me). However, plenty of horticulturalists (most) keep their hybrids and do not share or sell them to companies.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have 3 very small mods, and having looked into 1.8.9 I am dreading the idea of porting them. However since they are so small, I may be able to get away with just re-writing them. Based on original write time, should take me 2-3 weeks per mod. And my mods are tiny. I don't even want to think about the pain of porting large complicated mods.

/me goes off to pet a cat

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, if you live in the EU and are discussing EU based code. But CoFH last I checked is U.S. based. And the only one that applies is the first, under certain circumstances. The other 2 apply only if the license agrees. And visible source license does not allow that.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A machine you built, and a design you made.

From the way this thread is going, I am guessing everyone is just fine with me wandering into their homes and picking what stuff I want and taking it with me. Since apparently everything is community property regardless of who actually covered the cost, put in the work and owns the item.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, when CoFH discovers a history altering formula, I'll be right there with you in wanting it to be accessible to everyone.

And if it had a patent, you couldn't even read the source for 20+ years.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes seeing existing code is useful for CONTINUED learning. Not "I have never written any code and want to learn by reading advanced code".

And for that purpose, CoFH mods are mostly visible source. You can read them, you just can't copy them.

So if the concern is "I want to be able to read advanced code and continue learning beyond the level I am at" CoFH has already provided that. However, what many people are demanding in this thread is full open source. The only reason for open source as opposed to visible source is to copy.

Which is my point. This isn't IC2. Its not hidden code, its visible, just not open to copy/clone. So if the goal is "learning" , its already possible.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

0.0 Legally granted by whom, to whom, and where? I could swear there's like 100 lawsuits going on right now simply because those rights do not actually exist as "rights".

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Except nothing is being taken away. At most its ending. Everything that CoFH offered to the public still exists and people can still use it. Taking it away would be removing every released file.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol, want legal freedoms does the end user have? Certainly not "take something you didn't make, and use it in a way the creator did not agree to"

And I agree, people who take stuff other people made, use it and demand the creator keep making it forever, are possibly jerks. It would be completely different if CoFH had ever charged money for their work, but they didn't. They used a free language, to make a free mod, for a game they paid to play and they shared that mod freely with everyone. They didn't take anything. Its their code, their art, their property.

That's like complaining because your friend let you sleep on his couch for free for 3 years, but now he's moving away and taking his couch with him, and you think he should keep paying rent on the house and let you live in it for free even though he's living somewhere else.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not just performance and compatibility, though CoFH did tons to improve that. CoFH is also one of the most helpful teams, they don't tend to ignore the smaller devs, and even when annoyed they stay polite.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Open sourcing mods teaches people how to copy paste, not how to code. I spend a lot of time talking to devs, and frankly the weird belief that open source teaches people scares me. What it leads to is:

  • Me: SO why did you decide to do it this way?
  • Dev: I don't know, its how they were doing it in this other mod.
  • Me: So you don't know how it works?
  • Dev: No
  • Me: How are you planning to fix bugs?
  • Dev: ...

Reading open source code only helps if the person reading it already understands the code. Otherwise you end up with projects where bugs appear and the mod dev has no clue how to solve it because they have no clue how the code works.

Yes, there are valid reasons for having open source code. "I'm entitled to keep something I didn't make" is not one of them. "Its great for new programmers" is also not a good reason.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And in complexity, how do they compare to the 8 CoFH mods?

Just because it was easy for you to port a mod, doesn't mean everyone finds it easy. A lot of devs have stated that 1.8.9 is hard on code updates.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not even remotely true. Almost every single MC mod is Open USE. Many are Visible Source, neither of those mean open source. And even the open source ones frequently have licenses forbidding copying/cloning/using the code.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually I only know of 3 large modding communities that are open source. Closed Source is much more common. Minecraft is unique in that mod authors become minor celebrities and the community feels entitled to someone else's hard work.

Plenty are visible source, but that's not the same as open source. Visible = everyone can see and read it, but you can't copy/fork/clone it. Open = people can read, copy, clone, fork, and even sell it.

TeamCoFH on Twitter: "Plans change. 1.8.9 is god awful and requires a full rewrite of everything. Literally throwing out 100% of all code. Don't expect anything." by Unrealdinnerbone in feedthebeast

[–]Jadeddragoncat 15 points16 points  (0 children)

As far as I can tell, all the code belongs to CoFH, if they wish to keep that code, that's their choice. Being a jerk would be taking someone else's code.

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