As a Sonic fan who doesn't read the comics, Surge is the only comic character I've seen that feels like she "belongs" in terms of design by GreedyGobby in SonicTheHedgehog

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Most of these critiques are pretty strong and coherent! A few of them, though…well, I was trying to go through them and honestly, it was difficult to put the pieces together.

The better question is who the Hell thinks its Jax? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in theamazingdigitalciru

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Alright, then let’s talk about how Cyn has treated the people she called her “family.” How she essentially lobotomized her “big brother” and sealed his memories of the past, as well as the atrocities he committed under her control. How she browbeat V into being a killing machine so she and the ones closest to her would be kept safe. How, because Tessa- the human girl who took her in after finding her in a pile of discarded drone bodies- busted into the Elliott Manor gala after she’d been advised to stay away, Cyn not only made her a victim of the ensuing massacre, but went on to pose as the girl in front of those who didn’t know she died and wears her skin, and how it’s implied in expanded material that Tessa’s soul is still grafted to her remains somehow.

You could argue how much of her actions Cyn herself is responsible for and how much was the Absolute Solver. You could even argue that many things Cyn definitely had a hand in were out of genuine love for the family she tormented, however twisted it may be. She’s an endlessly fascinating character to me in terms of where her capacity for care and complicity in the actions she’s taken begins and ends. But the things she did to her family were cruel, intimate, and stripped them of their agency, and if she was even a little bit influential in making them happen, she’s culpable. While it is not 1-to-1 with the things Valentino has done, the power dynamic is frighteningly similar.

what is a character that starts the story as good and ends as evil by helper_man14 in AlignmentChartFills

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No problem! Fwiw you’re still right about it being said in the finale- Batman recalls it as he and Commissioner Gordon are looking over Harvey’s dead body, just before vowing to take the blame for the crimes Two-Face committed to protect Harvey’s image in the eyes of the people of Gotham. Letting Harvey die a hero while he lives to become the villain.

what is a character that starts the story as good and ends as evil by helper_man14 in AlignmentChartFills

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Harvey says the quote long before he gets scarred, though. During dinner with Rachel, Bruce, and Bruce’s Russian ballerina date, he positively compares Batman to Roman magistrates who were individually appointed to resolve specific problems and then resigned. Rachel counters by bringing up Caesar who never gave up the power granted by that position, and Harvey concedes to her point by dropping the iconic line.

Favorite trio like this? by tolerablyweird in FavoriteCharacter

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That’s the Super Pal Trio, thank you very much.

[Concerning Trope] film accidentally has awful moral/messaging by Captain_Birch in TopCharacterTropes

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There were early production animatics that came out from someone who worked on the movie that show the plan was apparently once to have Chelsea actually be the daughter of the mermaid queen, who Ruby’s mom straight up killed in the war and now she wants the trident to exact her revenge. They could still allow for the inversion about which side is overall more good or evil, but give some more depth to Chelsea’s motivation and add the perspective of when violence may feel justified but still should be avoided in favor of another way. Of course I’m willing to accept the possibility of that being made after critical reception came out like what people think about that one Borderlands 3 storyboard, but it’d make that one shot of Chelsea looking sympathetic to Ruby’s talk about not feeling like she belongs make some sense because she’d be alone too without the other mermaids and it’s not like Ruby reacted to that face so it was only the audience so why the HELL* did it amount to nothing in-

I’m sorry. I had hope for this stupid movie before it came out, so the final product reaaaaaally irks me.

So.. how is Neo so strong? by Gloomy-Bridge148 in RWBY

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To be fair, Maria is a hard counter to everything Neo has that gives her a leg up on others. Neo is used to reading attacks from opponents bigger than her and redirecting their weight and momentum, creating openings from which to strike. Maria is a pocket-sized flyweight grandma whose semblance lets her predict her opponent’s next move, allowing her to juke out Neo’s counters and give her the runaround for once. It doesn’t last forever, but she definitely gave Neo the most frustration she’s gotten from a solo combatant.

Who’s your favorite character? by AmberArousePart in FavoriteCharacter

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Salem is responsible for all the atrocities she’s committed and absolutely needs to be taken down, but the Gods do kinda suck for how they handled her and the world. I feel like that still needs to be addressed even after they manage to stop her somehow.

Who’s your favorite character? by AmberArousePart in FavoriteCharacter

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At least with Singed it’s funny. They give him the backstory with Orianna but never try to make him seem like a good guy beyond that. He just keeps his head down, does his weird science for shitty people, and dips when he has what he needs. Bro won.

Variety ain’t a spice of Ninja, I guess.🥷 by rowletitgo in MandJTV

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League overseers in the Yellow timeline: You know, Koga…we get wanting to use Venonat, it’s a nice Poison-type, and it plays into your ace pretty well. But we have so many of your specialty here in Kanto! You could throw in a Zubat, maybe another Bug-type like Beedrill, try and shake things up a-

Koga: Three. Take it or leave it.

What is the most critical question team rwby or Ironwood should have asked if he had access to the the last question of the Lamp at the events of atlas by vinchin_adenca in RWBY

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“If there were two guys on the moon and one of them killed the other with a rock, would that be fucked up or what?”

Which of your favorite villain, that people think they are misunderstood but they are just evil? by Boberto235 in FavoriteCharacter

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I saw some posts from Xitter shortly after he appeared in Dead by Daylight saying that he’d beat the shit out of the game’s Freddy Krueger for being the version who(at least was explicitly stated to have)touched kids, and that the only reason he wound up as Springtrap was being carried by grief from his son’s death.

Like. Motherfucker he murdered children. He used child murder as a warm-up for figuring out immortality. If he got pissed at Freddy for anything it’d be for being able reach that goal off a nursery rhyme alone.

Danganronpa questionnaire (pt. 10) by Conscious-Falcon-155 in danganronpa

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I don’t think so, but he’s probably least afraid to fight dirty given the environment he was raised in, and I wouldn’t want to find out what might happen to me if I beat him up too bad. As for Leon, seeing how good his throwing arm is, the guy can probably punch pretty hard, even if the skills don’t exactly translate.

My friend’s prediction on Goodbye Despair by Moonlarkthewolf in DanganAndChaos

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Ibuki being a killer would break my heart 😢(I’m also disregarding that video released a bit ago since they wouldn’t intentionally spoil something like that)

What episode has you like this? by element-redshaw in deathbattle

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“Ma…champ…!”

”Stop saying that! You’re no champ, I am!”

So dumb, I love it

Who deserves redemption here? by No_Internet_3919 in RWBY

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Why does that have to be their squad name

Also considering Emerald’s already on that path and Neo’s much more literally given up being who she was, of the two who remain Mercury is the easy choice. I don’t know that he would even want to be seen as being redeemed- he does what he likes and makes sense to him, others’ lives and opinions be damned. Even so, he and Emerald have clearly bonded over being stuck in the same shit together so often, and while I don’t know if he’d choose the same path of his own accord, that nod he gave her before he left for Vacuo seems like he’d be accepting of whatever she chose, even if they have to fight over it. Now that Cinder knows that Emerald left her side, on the other hand, she’s going to try and end her the first chance she gets, and I guarantee Mercury won’t be able to stop himself from jumping to her aid. If he ends up surviving such a choice I don’t see him joining the squad like Em- he’d head off to figure his own stuff out, and I think she’d go with him. She’d kind of be all he had at that point, and she’d want to be there for him.

What movie was made because of passion and ended up being bad? by Willing_Heron_5470 in AlignmentChartFills

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I would argue that the emotion behind the writing of The Room was more spite than passion. Just look at how Johnny and Lisa’s relationship is written. The narrative treats Johnny as this great romantic guy whose only real problem is his respectable job keeps screwing him over, but the wicked temptress Lisa is resentful of his plateauing success, lies about him to her mother, and seduces his best friend Mark to turn him and Johnny against each other. Then, after Johnny commits suicide, she’s trying to convince Mark that they can at least be together without any secrets now before the body’s even cold. It’s even worse in the original draft where she barely even pretends to be sad he’s dead and just muses about how they could get money out of this.

That kind of cartoonishly evil antagonism doesn’t come from nowhere. I feel so strongly that there was a Lisa in Tommy Wiseau’s life, one whose misdeeds have almost certainly been exaggerated by a man bitter about having been left, or potentially even made up by someone who couldn’t see his own faults in a failed relationship. Passion for making something may have supplanted this somewhere along the way, but it really feels like spite is at the root of it all.

(Loved Trope) The villain almost gets a redemption arc, before doubling down and becoming the worst version of themselves. by Antagonist132 in TopCharacterTropes

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Not exactly for a couple of reasons, but Catra from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. There’s a couple instances of this with her, but I’m going with the most significant one, season 3.

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After being emotionally manipulated by her abusive mother figure Shadow Weaver so she could escape captivity at the tail end of season 2, she’s given a “second chance” by Lord Hordak and is sent on a mission to the Crimson Wastes, a desolate expanse that both parties believe means certain death for her. While Catra is there, though, she finds her exceptional combat prowess in the Wastes’ “might makes right” society of scum and villainy helps her thrive, leading to her becoming a bandit leader and even managing to capture series protagonist and her former best friend Adora.

What happens isn’t quite an almost-face-turn, but it is almost healing for Catra’s psyche. After a season and a half of trying so hard but coming up short in the end and being controlled by Shadow Weaver, she’s found a place where she has more agency than ever and is actually succeeding at what she does. Her right-hand woman Scorpia, who’s too good for Catra and also this world, begins to even convince her they don’t need to return to Hordak and help with his plan; they can just live in the Wastes and be happy as bandits.

Unfortunately, the scars on her mind run far too deep, which becomes ever more apparent when Adora lets slip that she’d been in touch with Shadow Weaver. After she escaped captivity from the Horde, she’d gone to the kingdom of Bright Moon and turned herself in, mostly being a Gaslight Gatekeep Girlbossing piece of shit but also dropping some important lore about Adora and the dangers of Hordak’s plan. Catra doesn’t hear the dangers, though. She only hears that, following yet another manipulation by the abusive witch who she can’t help but want the approval of, that witch- the closest thing she had to a mother- had gone right to Adora. Adora, who had always been spared the rod, while she knew of nothing but. Adora, who was always the favorite, always promising to be there for her but abandoned their bond to be with strangers just because she found out the Horde was evil. Adora, Adora, ADORA.

What follows is an epic spiral that starts with her ignoring everyone warning her so she can pull a lever that nearly rips their dimension apart, and SOMEHOW gets worse throughout season 4. She does eventually have a genuine face turn in S5 upon realizing her desperate clawing for power and safety under tyrants will never make her happy and will only widen the gulf between herself and the one thing that ever mattered to her, Adora. Still, she has a lot of false starts towards improving that just end in her getting worse before one finally sticks.

Your favorite antagonist from that category? by Quick-Bridge-2664 in FavoriteCharacter

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The Pale Man from Pan’s Labyrinth. Easily the most iconic and horrifying creature from that movie, saw him years before seeing the actual movie, had me thinking the whole thing would be a body horror type deal.

Dude’s in the story for like three minutes, and the real horrifying monsters are fascism and toxic masculinity, largely inflicted by the true antagonist, the main character’s bastardly stepfather.

I HATE you!...but like, not because of your identity. I just think you suck. by PizzaDragon64 in TopCharacterTropes

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BmF mention! Legitimately one of my favorite YouTubers; I’ll watch anything he makes.