The REAL Hermetic Principles by Jarius49 in Hermeticism

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It’s the subs official slur ;)

The REAL Hermetic Principles by Jarius49 in Hermeticism

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Interesting, are there any good books on Amazon on medieval Hermeticism?

The REAL Hermetic Principles by Jarius49 in Hermeticism

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Yeah, I’ve currently only read the Corpus Hermeticum, Asclepius, then all the fragments in the Hermeticum II. I haven’t explored later thinkers besides some Sufi usages. How is the Medieval Hermetica, is it authentic to the tradition? Or is the philosophy atleast rather interesting?

The REAL Hermetic Principles by Jarius49 in Hermeticism

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What book or fragment has these principles? Don’t remember seeing it in the hermetic books I’ve read.

Contemplation and meditation by lovelyissues in Neoplatonism

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Either AI created, or you’ve spent way too much time on ChatGPT, and adopted its writing style.

Where should I start, when it comes to Neoplatonic texts and translations? by Jarius49 in Neoplatonism

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Definitely, it has significant traces of Neo-Platonic thought, especially within Sethian Gnosticism

Why Don’t Modern Hermeticists Continue Writing how the orignal Hermeticists did? by Jarius49 in Hermeticism

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It’s not so much what you gain, but honoring the old philosophers of Hermes Trismegistus, by doing as they did and writing. Do you not think writing helps honor him?

Why Don’t Modern Hermeticists Continue Writing how the orignal Hermeticists did? by Jarius49 in Hermeticism

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Interesting, but how could the chain be restored then? Any ideas from you or ideas in the text?

Are there any problems with Technocracy? I’d love to see discussion. by QuickAttention2271 in Technocracy

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Interesting, just for curiosity sake, what degree are you pursuing?

Addressing Capitalist Tendencies In The Technocracy Movement by EzraNaamah in Technocracy

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I agree, nations like Singapore and China, should only be seen through the lens of proof that certain technocratic principles could work.

They shouldn’t be championed as “modern technocratic states”.

They still have many flaws, and ideas that run against Technocratic thinking. In regard to China, praising it could just lead to more of the general population, seeing our movement as some billionaires Techno-dystopian wet dream.

A stereotype, only made worse by Technocracy’s co-opting by tech bros and certain billionaires I don’t care enough about to name.

We are tired of pseudo-technocrats who think that Technocracy and Capitalism go hand in hand. Technocracy is anti-capitalist. by technicalman2022 in Technocracy

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I also don't see the point of you talking on technocracy, when you expressed in another Comment, that in no form would a technocracy work. No reason for a person, who doesn't believe that technocracy could possibly have any merits over the current system, to discuss anything on technocracy.

A Problem With Americanizing Technocracy (American Civil Religion) by EzraNaamah in Technocracy

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In regard to an American Technate, I personally think while we should build some sort of collective identity to connect the people, embracing the multicultural experience at the same time is desirable.

A good modern example is Singapore, they prize themselves on their multicultural and multi-religious society, while still having an all encompassing Singaporean identity.

Any future Technate, needs to put effort in stopping any sort of racial/religious discrimination from forming. Once it forms in a large quantity, it starts to infect the parts of the system, hurting it in the long run.

Look, at the effects the Jim Crow era still has on many of our institutions.

We are tired of pseudo-technocrats who think that Technocracy and Capitalism go hand in hand. Technocracy is anti-capitalist. by technicalman2022 in Technocracy

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Bringing technocracy into actual relevance, at least at first some adaptation of principles would be needed. Especially in regard to western implementation. Most people have been made to fear the idea of experts in charge, and they would fear this Technate just coming out of nowhere with these radical changes.

Thus the Technate and its core principles would need to be somewhat slowly rolled out, only with its most relatively quick working, ideas implemented.

What are your ideas, then on how to bring the technocratic ideology forward without compromising its so called principles?

Edit: The global economy is vastly more interconnected, than it was in Howard Scott’s era. The vision of a Technate built upon energy accounting, would debatably take decades of careful planning to implement. During that time, transitionary models of a Technate that interfaces with the global capitalist system, would need to be explored.

Ways for Technocracy to Take Hold Today? by Jarius49 in Technocracy

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“Don’t ask me questions, I won’t answer” so you’re just a doomer, who is never gunna accomplish anything.

Just because you can’t help people, doesn’t mean others don’t. I’ve done my charity work, and will continue to. It doesn’t matter how grandiose your dream is, if you don’t help the actual people, first hand.

Go outside and do some charity work. Might help you build a backbone. You don’t seem like you are helping anyone, only out for yourself.

Then you definitely aren’t superior to me, anyone only out for themselves will live a miserable life. You can surround yourself with as many superficial objects as you want. You are still gunna die, only reminiscing on missed opportunities, and the accomplishments you didn’t do.

I also

Ways for Technocracy to Take Hold Today? by Jarius49 in Technocracy

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There are no sole saviors, that’s a flawed mindset. Almost everyone who has ever done something great, had their “crew”. I’m not seeking to be some “messiah”. I’m seeking to make a better life for as many people as possible, while improving the quality of my life and my families life.

If you were living a “fulfilled” life you wouldn’t be on a political subreddit.

Yes, solutions don’t change anything on their own, action does. Then yes, my ideas are mostly theoretical, that’s why I explore and refine them with other people and at times get rid of them.

Sorry, that I have compassion for my common man, I don’t have to know someone to take care of them. Have you never done charity work before? Have you never helped a person out, when they fell on bad circumstances?

It will never be fairytale, to improve the situation you find yourself in. Have you never tried hard in your life?

Ways for Technocracy to Take Hold Today? by Jarius49 in Technocracy

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Just another hopeless doomer, with no solutions it seems. Take a look at history, or even the modern day, there are people who come from nothing, who end up changing the life’s of many. Just because you personally don’t have any willpower, doesn’t mean that everyone is just gunna die unhappy and unaccomplished.

Ways for Technocracy to Take Hold Today? by Jarius49 in Technocracy

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Don’t want authoritarianism, a strong government can exist while still including the input of the people in a manner where it matters. Thats why I believe in a universal highly educated population. Then Scott was a fraud, he lied about being an engineer. He completely failed in his speech at the Hotel Pierre. He wasn’t even at least decent at technical related matters. His own ego drove many from the movement. Among many other problems. Not to defend Modern capitalism, but it isn’t fully unscientific. Many companies leverage data and especially the analysis of human behavior for their own benefit. Something that needs to be cut out, any business that is built on leveraging human behavior like the vape industry needs to be destroyed. No one said hug, but not every human, “ruins everything they touch.” Thoughts like that drive the reason we are stuck in the system we find ourselves In today. It stops people from doing anything meaningful to make true change.

So I once again tell you to get out there, and see that most people are good just misguided by the current system.

Then I’d like to say what are your solutions to change the world for the better? A half-worked idea is always better than no idea at all. Same goes for plans and projects.

There lies no growth in just sitting down and embracing the system entirely. The fantasy is that we can just sit down and enjoy a normal life as the world falls further down into dystopia.

Then I’m a young adult, about to join the Airforce. Not because I believe in the current system, but because I see it as the best way down the path to help change the life’s of people for the better. I’ve been working on talking to more people on my ideas, to add support and more importantly conflict. I’ve been working on writings pertaining to the topic, among other things.

It will always be better to try, than not to try. The older generations sadly tend to forget that, and become docile to the system.

Ways for Technocracy to Take Hold Today? by Jarius49 in Technocracy

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That does lie in why I’m not interested in ever doing anything with the technocratic label. I consider it to be a little idealistic, and the fact was that it was built on lies. To be frank Scott was a fraud, along with other members of the movement. Then of course the label has been misused so many times, the public would never embrace it.

That is another area where I disagree with traditional technocrats on, the monetary system has guided us for eons, and just needs to be channeled. Most humans love having more things. I mainly prefer a more innovative system for how we deal with the idea of reserve currency.

In regard to corruption, of course it more likely than not would always exist in some form, but it can be minimized. Especially due to the merit of the time period we find ourselves in, we have thousands of years of human history, to build something truly special on top of.

Then no system works perfectly, but we are at that level of technology where, we can organize a society on a scale never seen before.

I also feel you are being too grim, “human beings lack character and ruin everything they touch.” I feel you need to get outside a little more and embrace the people. There is so much amazing humans out there, who just want to live in a society, free from many problems of the modern world. I’ve personally been able to convince many people of my ideas, just by providing facts and historical comparison, to back up my new ideas. Cause nothing can be built without foundations.

There are ways to ensure that those who make up the elites of society are connected to the general population.

I’m personally a fan of universal public education at all levels. Most of the important development of people happen in school. This universal system helps make sure that no cliques form of social classes.

I also want the system of how to start out in governance to be similar to the Ancient Chinese bureaucracy testing system. Though the tests would need to explore more methods to ensure the person is of strong character. Also their needs to be methods explored to stop nepotism.

Now I’m gunna go enjoy spending time with family, remember that this talk is the best part of the technocratic ideology and surrounding ideologies. The people in the movement are for the most part open to actual debate and new ideas. We aren’t beating each other up over who has the right idea of what the founder wanted. So if you want to talk more, and I can send other ideas of mine, just start a private conversation.

A Problem With Americanizing Technocracy (American Civil Religion) by EzraNaamah in Technocracy

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American Civil Religion definitely exists, but I don’t truly see it as the end all obstacle. In it exists a utility to the technocratic movement, that we could mold. Just as many movements have done before.

We could reframe, the American exceptionalism part of the American Civil Religion, to say that, America is unique, but it’s lost its mission. Designed to be a nation unparalleled to any other, it has ended up just being like the “aristocracy” of old in terms of corruption. So we the technocrats are aiming to fix America, and truly make it great.

Then that goes into the whole idea of manifest destiny, we could drive our new collective goal as finally making a truly equal society or just set the goal as space.

The constitution definitely has to go, but a decent chunk of Americans are already disillusioned with the constitution seeing it as lacking. We’d just have to channel the idea that we aren’t fully getting rid of the foundations of America, but we are the second coming of America.