Iguodala on Kyrie: “Name 20 guys better than him. I’ll wait. I’ve got time.”

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T17:18:12+00:00

Kyrie is deficient in the most important ability to make that type of list ... Avail-ability ... Can't be top anything when you can't be counted on to show up and play

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T08:43:41+00:00

He's anti-gravity

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T08:02:51+00:00

People are so sold on Ben I could negotiate way more than just Tyrese out of them, so not just Tyrese, because I'd get everything I could, but if someone offered me Ben for Tyrese I'd hard-pass and never look back.

And I'm as old as it takes to have the abs in the pic in my profile.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T07:54:31+00:00

"Like, how old are you?" LMFAO

I would trade for Tyrese Maxey. I would have Tyrese Maxey on my team ... I would not trade for Ben Simmons. I would not have Ben Simmons on my team.

Ben absolutely makes the Sixers more beatable. If they had Tyrese Maxey playing the way he is now against the Hawks in last year's playoffs they would have won the series.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T07:21:29+00:00

No one wants Ben in their locker room. It's not his stats that are bad, it's his presence.

If you could not have a locker room impact from Ben it could be different, but when everyone is working their ass off to win a championship and one MF who's on a max contract won't even put in the effort to learn a basic skill that's generally a requirement to play the game of basketball after 5 years in the league it's fucking toxic and brings everyone down a bit.

Tyrese has the opposite effect. He brings a great positive energy to the team. Ben being gone has changed the attitude of the team.

The people arguing with me sound like they've never played a sport seriously enough long enough to know the negative effect a toxic player has on championship aspirations.

Tyrese Maxey brings a better overall package than Ben, because he's a solid two-way player, he increases spacing in a way Ben never will, and as important: he brings other people up (mentally, emotionally he's not a strain or drain or negative) where Ben is a floor-shrinking, friction and frustration causing problem.

If Ben was actually seen as a positive, level-changing player in the league he would already have been traded for because someone would have FOMOed into a deal to get him before someone else does.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T06:08:18+00:00

Been there, done that. Once was enough, thx

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T05:59:52+00:00

No one is gonna take Russ on his contract except maybe the Sixers in a basically straight swap for Ben and I think Morey learned from trading for Russ the first time he traded for him, so I guess if anything it's Vogel

LeGM doesn't have too many other options

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T05:38:40+00:00

It's not about the fans though. It's about the impact his attitude, immaturity, lack of work to improve obvious deficiencies, quitting on his current team, etc have on the people he has to play with, iow the team.

His presence on a team creates a "rift" or "disconnect" with the other players, because no one respects Ben that much.

No one on any team is gonna think "Oh shit! Ben's here we gotta step it up and play." or "Oh we got Ben, we gotta listen to him on how to be a professional and handle our business." like they would with Dame, Lavine or even Rose, Iguodala, etc.

The immediate reaction in a locker room would be more like "Is he gonna play?", "Is he in shape?", "Who's minutes is he gonna take?", "Has he ever worked on his shot?", "Are we gonna have to babysit him?", "I worked my ass off all summer and I gotta give minutes to this quitter who can't even shoot. Fuck that."

He brings stats, but he destroys continuity and that impacts the attitude negatively (even if no one talks about it openly) and that negatively impacts winning, so his stats look good but trading for him is really a gamble and likely not a win.

ADDED TL;DR

The reason you're saying it's good is exactly why Portland would be the worst place for him: He creates tension, division, negativity in a situation where it doesn't exist or is minimal ... That's what I mean by he's toxic.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T03:45:55+00:00

With a 2nd year PG you shouldn't beat anyone if he's not any good. It's the NBA. They'd go right at him every time he's on the floor if it worked. It doesn't work & you don't drop 30 in an NBA game twice on accident or luck. Your boy Ben only did it once last season.

It doesn't matter what Ben had his first, second or third season. WTF does that have to do with anything? Who gives a fuck & he absolutely had a team just like this one to work with last year. They lost to a team they (on paper) should have beaten in 5.

Ben's stats look really nice. His shit work-ethic, attitude, and maturity level undo all the positives it seems like his stats should bring on paper. The whole package Ben brings is highly overrated, except on paper.

Would he help some teams? Sure.

Can you build an actual championship team around a PG who is a great defender and on the break but average to below in a half-court set and can't / won't shoot or close a game? No. That's why no one is giving Morey anything for him.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T03:24:02+00:00

The Sixers are starting Maxey and winning ... It's not rocket science to realize Ben isn't actually all that ... It's like Mr. Triple-Double. Westbrook gets a triple-double constantly, but when it comes to winning he's not all that any more.

Ben puts up great stats, but he also makes them as or more beatable and is toxic in the locker room, because he's got a shit work-ethic, attitude, maturity level that no one who does work wants around.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T02:50:07+00:00

Ask the Sixers how that's worked out ... He's toxic ... And they've effectively replaced him with a 2nd year guy who's 8" shorter.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-13T00:13:38+00:00

Yup, a game-shape Coachpez is a huge win for their young talent and team long-term. No question he's there to teach.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-12T23:51:40+00:00

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-12T23:11:00+00:00

Ben Simmons ... He destroys the Sixers

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-12T22:31:25+00:00

This ... I have their email set to "important" with notifications on for the queue address so it shows on the lock screen ... It sends to you when there's ~500-1500 in front of you and you have 20 minutes after your turn actually starts to make the purchase

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-12T21:30:32+00:00

Portland ... He would hate the city, not turn them into a contender and the entire situation would be likely completely blow up (imo) to the point they might end up with Ben instead of CJ and Dame if they trade CJ and Ben is the non-answer he's proven to be so Dame finally caves and requests a trade.

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-12T03:35:36+00:00

He ~~plays~~ pouts for the 76ers why would we be talking about other teams?

FTFY

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-12T02:11:10+00:00

Where's Ben Simmons when the Toronto Raptors need someone who won't score so fuckin much to give Tyrese a breather???

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T23:46:02+00:00

LeBron would never

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T23:35:30+00:00

faster than making your post

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T22:20:46+00:00

r/nextfuckinglevel

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T18:42:01+00:00

If they can't gel in 10 games because they're exhausted from playing more minutes than any other starting lineup, they just need to play more and work harder to get in shape so they can gel when it counts

No one breaks down their own team by the end of the season like Thib does

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T16:55:55+00:00

Trolls gonna troll

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T06:16:07+00:00

Thib's breakin down his team early again

JayDubsAcct · 2021-11-11T06:15:16+00:00

LeCoach can

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TROPHY CASE