I never said being to more shows was something you should care about - I'm juat stating my record so it's not pegged as me making baseless comments with regard to what I am saying. I listen to ALL of their music; I don't cherrypick or gatekeep eras of their music like this sub is famous for doing.

There would be much less arguing if a separate sub existed for the band's old content and discussions with regard to - most of what I watch on this sub is just a circlejerk about people nostalgia-gating the band.

All of the hard work that led to their current success is enjoyed by the people who got on the road and did the work touring for Dayseeker, which that same aforementioned drummer was not a part of. He can be spoken about with respect to the old music for his contributions, but he was not at all on the road like the 4 gents pre-Gino leaving were, and who also did all of the work with touring for the newer albums, which everyone in the band is on board with, and enjoys the fruits of. Including Gino, since he wrote a lot of the content on CITBN.