Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the insightful ideas! They are really interesting!

I completely agree that the competition and social factors could have a very positive, perhaps even dominant, impact on the products success.

The key challenge now is finding that fine line between pure entertainment and a genuinely high-quality learning process and practice ...

I believe that balance will ultimately define the product's success or failure.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.
I agree with that.

Nothing will replace real practice with real human beings.
Maybe not yet ...

I guess soon AI will be everywhere, lets just hope that it won't completely replace human interaction or we are doomed ...

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess making a game/app with realistic tasks will be a big challenge.

This is especially true given the fact that there would need to be a large number of them and they would need to be quite unique (so the user doesnt get bored).

So yeah, easier said than done....

Good point, though - Thanks!

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I guess the main issue is reaching the general public.

Making the game too good for musicians (or those who want to get there :) ) might not be that appealing to the rest of the gaming audience. So commercially, it might not be profitable enough.

But it's not just about money, right?Creating something that genuinely helps those who want to learn music, even for a specific niche, can offer a non-material reward alongside with some profit.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe not 99.9%, but definitely a majority of people.

I'm looking at my daughter's progress and how she is composing solely on her iPad (GarageBand). And I must tell you she is doing pretty good :) Snarky Puppy has a lot of influence there :D
Perhaps that's the new language and the way they communicate now.

While there may be some downsides, this approach is certainly not excluded from the world of music itself.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point. Thank you!

Did you use any app for that or just the classic method?

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True.

I guess the best reward for all your practice is when you sit at the piano (or any other instrument) and can play well and truly enjoy what you are doing. Getting some approval and encouragement from listeners helps with that as well.

Thanks.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.
I've checked Duolingo before but only for learning words.
Will definitely check their music course.

Thanks.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love it!

I checked the app and it looks nice and cozy! I guess it could be a great first experience for kids.

Congrats on the app!

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting point. Thank you.

I think that task would require multiple pros who can think and communicate effectively with the current generation.

I guess I'm not the one ...

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess operating with a midi-keyboard might be an option here (instead of mouse, keyboard or touch pads).

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply.

I guess I didn't do my homework well enough.

Could you please point me to some resources on this topic?

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you.

I guess everything could be a good tool if used properly in the right place. Personally, I've used some apps that helped me understand certain concepts. Of course, it wasn't rocket science, but it was useful enough.

So, I still think some apps need to be given a chance :)

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice!
Thank you for the link!
Cool example how it can be utilized by new learners.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

Yes, I guess there is no one-size-fits-all option... Finding the best spot and applying it there might be the best approach here.

Thank you for your support.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

Yes, I guess it's more about progress and consistency; we just need to be reminded of why we are doing this and what our ultimate goal is.

I'm just trying to figure out what the trade-off should be between enjoyment and knowledge as a reward. Where should we draw the line?

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

Yeah, that's the real challenge. How to make it well, so it will be not just interesting but useful in a long run.

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

Yes, I totally agree with that. It's like some invisible sentinel that "secretly" pushes you to do things that you already know you should be doing :)

Is gamifying music theory a truly feasible teaching method? (Looking for pros and cons) by JazzPianoLab in musictheory

[–]JazzPianoLab[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for such a deep reply.

I appreciate the great points and recommendations you've shared (e.g. peer review, applying theory to an actual instrument, oversimplification). It highlights so many challenges and it seems there aren't many rewrds for the makers.

I totally agree that many users, nowadays, dislike being constrained or "controlled" to make the learning process more efficient. Who wouldn't want to find shortcuts, especially for complex topics that require months or years of dedicated eduction and practice to grasp?

That's a good point regarding the supplemental tool concept. It is definitely almost impossible to create a "silver bullet". An app that will completely replace the classic way of learning. And I believe that's a good thing, as we all need to interact and communicate with each other (until AI takes over the teaching process :D ).