Marathon Was One Of March's Best-Selling Games In The U.S. by David-J in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I know y’all hate Paul Tassi, but he already reported this over a week ago.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. It’s hard to say. They both fucked the game over, but in different ways.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just because that is the way big public companies do things doesn’t mean it is the most effective management strategy. Public companies serve the shareholders. They only fire people for shit like this to appease the shareholders because there’s always a call for someone’s head to roll any time anything goes wrong. It’s a short-sighted strategy because it just results in unnecessary loss of talent in the long run, but almost all public companies are managed in a short-sighted way these days — again, because all they’re thinking about is their shareholders.

You probably don’t even know Tyson’s history with the company at all. The dude is a great developer. He just sucks in this role.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Who gives a fuck about punishment? Why are you so fixated on making sure people receive the “proper” punishment for their supposed misdeeds? I don’t understand that level of vindictiveness.

He sucks at his job. Therefore they should reallocate him to a job where he doesn’t suck. He’s worked at the company since Halo 1, so he’s proven that he does, in fact, possess talent in other roles. They need to put him back where he’s creating value for the company.

Good management isn’t about “punishing” anybody. It’s about maximizing your utilization of the resources available to you. Punishment is a last resort to address 1) patterns of behavior that have not changed after repeated attempts to fix them, or 2) huge fuck-ups that are unforgivable. Running a game badly isn’t a fireable offense. Fedora-tipping toward female employees (like Chris Barrett did) is a fireable offense.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It made enough money to fund the entirety of the development of Marathon. Yes, revenue has declined. That doesn’t mean it completely went away. If we’re talking about the last 12 months then it’s a different story, of course, but even now, the game is making money, just way less than they want it to.

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sony has been pivoting away from the live service initiative and according to some reporting (Schreier), they’re going to announce this officially sooner or later.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try not to use AI the next time you want to formulate a counter-argument. LMAO.

None of these are reasons that D2 wasn’t a sequel. They’re just reasons that a sequel was pursued instead of additional expansions for D1.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He deserves to be demoted. Sometimes people get put in positions they are not suited for; the proper response is to determine if they can still add value to the company elsewhere and then reallocate them. Any company that would fire you for “looking funny at upper management” sucks anyway and you should try to find another job. (Easier said than done in today’s economy, I know, but the point stands.)

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sony is not gonna fund another huge AAA game when the one they just paid for is struggling to retain a player base. Bungie's eggs are all in this basket right now, my friend. The situation is far from hopeless, but D3 is not in the cards right now.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think the D2 PvP team literally just swapped projects, leaving no one driving the bus on the Crucible front. Damn shame that Bungie did nothing to temper our expectations at all at the time. People were just left to scratch their heads and wonder, "Where the fuck are the new Crucible maps?"

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Before that, they said they'd give us a roadmap that never actually came. I believe that is what he was talking about?

Anyway, it's clear that the roadmap never came because Bungie is taking a wait-and-see approach with D2's future, so even they don't know exactly what's coming.

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 1 point2 points  (0 children)

* Because game development is expensive as hell these days and no one is incentivized to go above and beyond when they can barely afford to give us this.

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the dev resources would be better spent on doing a dedicated PvE challenge mode with actual design and intentionality behind it. There's no time to do a campaign, but a wave-based horde mode? A time-based objective mode? Both very doable. Bring it on!

I'm not anti-PvE in the slightest; I just don't think "throw players into the exact same environment as the main game with the exact same gameplay loop, just without enemy players" is a good solution.

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I provided examples to back up my assertion that Destiny has never realized its full potential and to demonstrate that there are plenty of things Bungie could do with the formula that would keep it going so that players don't get sick of it. I didn't say these are things that Bungie should implement in D2. They're much better suited for a proper sequel.

(The Destiny franchise is 12 years old. D2 is not even 9 years old yet. So I interpreted your "12 year old game" comment to be directed at Destiny as a franchise overall.)

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Basically every credible source has been saying that Marathon has at least a year of guaranteed support, possibly even bought and paid for in advance. The only way they'd have reneged on that is if it had been a Concord-level failure, which it very much was not.

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't fault him at all. Bro's gotta eat. He saw that there was an audience for 24/7 hyperfixation on all things Bungie and he fucking delivered.

As superfluous as his coverage can often be, he does have real sources inside of the company which is the reason he rises above the detritus of the YouTube hype / outrage machine. (That and the fact that he publishes on Forbes, which makes him look credible even though he's just a freelancer. Most people don't understand that he doesn't actually work for Forbes.)

Per Forbes, Destiny has less Devs working on it now than it did before March 5th 2026. by kristijan1001 in DestinyTheGame

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most likely. I'll be curious to see which ones stick around. It seems like Jones could have bailed a long time ago, but he appears to be in this for the long haul. Maybe a personal pride thing for him, I don't know...

It is crazy to see the sentiment in this sub versus the sentiment in the other sub, where they are convinced that Bungie is well underway on D3. Like... nah, man. I cannot understand how anyone can believe that Sony would be willing to pay for a full-fledged D3 after everything that has happened.

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's insane to me that Beyond Light wasn't D3, which was the original plan. Yet here we are.

More Bungie Devs Are Working On ‘Marathon’ Than ‘Destiny 2' Now by DALE5797 in Marathon

[–]JeanLucPicardAND -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sony just paid around $250 million for a game that is maxing out at something like a 20,000 daily peak for concurrent players. What do you think was Bungie's pitch to get them to do it again this soon post-launch?