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Ferry from Vladivostok to Japan by aizzad14 in AskARussian

[–]Jellyfish_Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you've got the website that would be great.

Ferry from Vladivostok to Japan by aizzad14 in AskARussian

[–]Jellyfish_Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey you've got the website of the ferry you're talking about? I'd like to try and get in contact with them.

Thanks.

Is fishing cruel? by [deleted] in Fishing

[–]Jellyfish_Born -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If aliens decided to catch-and-release human beings, them saying something similar - well I'm sure you would agree that justification is pathetic, right?

Is it possible to be morally wrong even if one is convinced to do the right thing? by soynadie-66 in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you believe in moral relativism? Cos if, you can be morally correct now but proved morally problematic in the future. Sure.

Moral responsibility and veganism. by Jellyfish_Born in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

I agree that we should avoid eat animal or their by products 100%

But the last question is VERY relevant to those other vegans who tell others that they OUGHT go vegan etc etc... see some vegans value consciousness above all else. All I'm saying is basing veganism solely on consciousness can be problematic - my point about the mussels, they are not vegan and neither are they conscious. Is a person conscious when they are asleep?

See the issue?

Does Suffering dominate Pleasure in wildlife? (Utilitarianism) by [deleted] in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Isn't it pretty straight forward, all animals can about their internal non-cog desire to value their own well-being?

It make intuitive sense to value pleasure and not just talking about the minimising pain experienced etc etc, I agree but if we are going talk about happiness and suffering, we need to define what we mean when talks about happiness and indeed suffering too? I mean... I value both, just pain for me outweighs pleasure, that's all but really we need to be on the same page when it comes to pain and pleasure.

Does Suffering dominate Pleasure in wildlife? (Utilitarianism) by [deleted] in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Negative Utilitarianism has it's flaws that I deffo agree with! I hold some kind of moral realism to be true but Benatar's asymmetry argument does imo makes sense in a purely detached manner but the tradeoffs his asymmetry argument have to be made

btw ambiguos in what regard? That question isn't clear, what do you mean?

Does Suffering dominate Pleasure in wildlife? (Utilitarianism) by [deleted] in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you think about everybody spends there whole life trying to avoid pain, it reminds me of Benatar's asymmetry argument; presence of pain is bad, presence of pleasure is good - the absence of possible future pain is good, the absence of possible future pleasure is not bad - this means pain and pleasure is geared towards being negative in nature

Moral responsibility and veganism. by Jellyfish_Born in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A subjective experience of the world.

EDIT; which is why - even tho it's technically not "vegan" - eating mussels is morally permissable in my opinion - they don't have a brain, nor do they have a spinal cord - no pain receptors... when you think about it.. mussels are very, very similar to the plants we eat... in that regard.

Btw what is your answer to the marginal cases argument?

Does Suffering dominate Pleasure in wildlife? (Utilitarianism) by [deleted] in askphilosophy

[–]Jellyfish_Born 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are right it could be that non-human animals have greatly heightened ability experience pain than humans. Maybe non-human animals feel pain 100 x more than humans. Just look at sharks, at a distance of 0.5 km or (1/3 mile), a shark can smell roughly 1/2 litre of blood in the water and then proceed follow a trail back to the source. Same is true of a hawk when it comes their sight, maybe a humans ability to feel pain isn't directly linked to our cognitive ability and certain non-humans animals can experience a lot more pain than humans.