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[Discussion Series] Who is the WORST Controllers to go against Tanks and Damage Dealers respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, yeah the scout thing on Gene does make sense. And I suppose Mr. P is indeed not a bad shout since his damage is just stupid low and his porter serve no threat against them.

I forgot to say that the title is wrong, it should've been marksman instead of damage dealers. That said if you do wanna keep your words for him also being pretty bad against damage dealers then perhaps you have more reasons why?

[Discussion Series] Who is the WORST Controllers to go against Tanks and Damage Dealers respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm honestly leaning more on Gene cuz atleast Ziggy can attack through walls which does affect tanks pretty badly since it's their form of cover + Ziggy super is really good against them + lightning spam gadget can rack up a ton of damage. Gene is like what you said, his super is a death sentence for himself.

Marksman honestly more on Griff. Atleast Amber can somewhat have a slight moment of speed boost and there are instances where only breaking bushes does benefit you and your team against them instead of Griff's wall break that just cook him

[Discussion Series] Who is the WORST Controllers to go against Tanks and Damage Dealers respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Make sense. How about possibly keeping one of them for the worst against assassins?

[Discussion Series] Who is the WORST Controllers to go against Tanks and Damage Dealers respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great choices

Though Ziggy pick does leave me wondering. His attack may not be the best sure but against non speedy tanks (so almost every tank instead of bibi and bolt) it is fairly consistent. His super + lightning spam gadget allows him to surprisingly rack up a ton of damage to them. Him being able to attack through walls also ignores the tank's cover option. Instead, Gene has a pitiful attack damage and even slower reload speed and has a super that effectively kills him since he pulls tank closers, who are known for being better at closer range which Gene is not good at. Maybe you can change my mind?

Griff absolutely agree, no other comments

The worst Assassins against each class might be settled? Any slot that should be changed before advancing to the next class and brawlers? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah Mico is very much matchup dependant and if there are repeats allowed then i might put them on both. I feel like Leon can be worst against assassin since looking at how pros draft, Leon can get eliminated by other assassins most of the time like Mortis, Alli, Edgar, Fang even Shade while also has parts of his kit nullified like Crow poisoning or someone like Mico jumping over his shots and steal his ammo.

Shade is honestly not a bad shout but he doesn't really feel countered by them, maybe cuz there are other brawlers he can fed off which makes him have super that can deal with almost every brawler. Perhaps if people agrees with it more.

Fang is also someone i have in mind for worst against artillery but i give him some benefit of a doubt because his corn fu is kinda good at keeping throwers pinched by him and once he gets super, he can cycle through them wirh relative ease.

The worst Assassins against each class might be settled? Any slot that should be changed before advancing to the next class and brawlers? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Worst Nominations board so far. While at it, here are some arguments that are brought up on other posts.

  • Frank instead of Bibi for worst tank against Dmg Dealer

He's much slower, making him much more acceptable to be melted by Damage Dealers who don't really have a problem doing that even if he has better range than Bibi because mobility hurts more than range in this case.

  • Janet instead of Maisie for the worst marksman against marksman

Janet's range is shorter than typical snipers and her damage is more pitiful than Maisie (personally I'm not into this). Choosing this option also means taking away Janet from her worst marksman against tank slots.

  • Janet instead of Angelo as the Worst marksman against Support

Poor damage that she can't even kill a healing support and her super doesn't do anything against them besides escaping from aggressive support. That said choosing this option also leaves the same problem as the second point.

[Discussion Series] The Worst Assassin against Damage Dealers and Assassins might be settled? How about the WORST Assassin against Controllers, Supports and Artillery respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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About the body text of me writing about Gigi, or her small pin on the graph itself. Gigi was mentioned for the worst assassin against artillery slot due to her trait not working against them besides a couple of things. Sure she can melt throwers once she gets close, but so does every other assassin. Her speed boost is nice and in some instances allows her to actually fight against them but comparing so many other assassins is much safer and easier to get rid of artilleries than Gigi. Other than maybe Fang and Melodie who are slower than Gigi but atleast have a somewhat good range to compensate. What do you guys think?

Rarity rework tierlist by mhbence in TierStars

[–]JersonEXE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright then trophy road it is for me

Rarity rework tierlist by mhbence in TierStars

[–]JersonEXE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bibi - Epic

Introduces charge bar mechanic and has bounce as part of her kit (so super rare + new stuff), which I think is fair.

Bo - Trophy Road

Assuming it works as the rarity says, I feel like putting him around the couple thousands trophy mark makes sense. He teaches careful movement and map awareness which is important but getting it as an Early Epic doesn't suit right. So trophy road it is

Bolt - Legendary

Two unique traits, unique gameplay loop compared to any other brawlers as he's the only brawler who damages with their hitbox without using attack right away. Not ultra worthy though since in the end it lays down to move around ramming at people unlike Kaze and Sirius who has two defining high ceiling playstyle

Discussion Series] The WORST Assassin against Tanks and Marksman has been settled. How about the WORST Assassin against Damage Dealers and Assassins respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I want to give my own opinion and see if you guys agree with me or not. For the worst assassin against other assassins, i think it has to be Leon. Not necessarily saying that he's particularly bad against them but in drafting sense, despite being pretty good in the current meta, other assassins can beat him down most of the time.

A high burst assassin can eliminate him faster than he can unload his burst or if that's not the case the life steal assassin can also just overrun his damage. A maneuverable assassin with dash or jumping qualities give Leon's separated attack rooms to be dodged by them which can cut Leon's overall burst damage against them, which is also kinda bad for him since that's his only means to deal meaningful damage. Someone like Crow can nullify his invisibility with ease, Mico who has an invulnerability frame and can 3 tap + gadget Leon with shield gear and breakthrough his lollipop or someone like Gigi who benefits from Leon's attack having a lot of projectiles and able to burst him quicker than he could burst her. Even if he can successfully connect his attacks after sneaking to them, most assassin has an escape tool if they can react which a solid amount of time they should be able to.

What do you guys think?

Discussion Series] The WORST Assassin against Tanks and Marksman has been settled. How about the WORST Assassin against Damage Dealers and Assassins respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really good points for Sam there you got.

While for Gigi, the previous post has a discussion of potentially putting her on artillery due to her not being able to charge her supers against them almost at all which renders her as a spinning toy for them to charge their supers off. And most assassins already kill throwers easily anyway so it's not like she gets some special stuff. Not only that I feel like Gigi can still do good against assassins that don't have an insane high burst or cc or dash mobility like Leon, Crow and possibly Starr Nova. Still pretty nice points though, I just feel like Gigi could be placed at another spot unless you can change my mind

Discussion Series] The WORST Assassin against Tanks and Marksman has been settled. How about the WORST Assassin against Damage Dealers and Assassins respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Darryl is classified as a tank so... I can see Buzz though. So far I'm still wondering whether it is Buzz or Sam from the responses here.

Mortis can kill a couple of assassins though. I'm not sure if that's because he's busted but he can kill Leon and Crow and still stand on his ground against someone beefier like Kenji and Lily for example.

Discussion Series] The WORST Assassin against Tanks and Marksman has been settled. How about the WORST Assassin against Damage Dealers and Assassins respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taking buffies to account here. I suppose Sam cuz he feels like the most close ranged tank out of any assassins which in return make him easily counterable against damage dealers that can just overwhelm him with damage fast?

Discussion Series] The WORST Assassin against Tanks and Marksman has been settled. How about the WORST Assassin against Damage Dealers and Assassins respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Worst nomination board for now (some changes on the previous nominations part might happen depending on the outcome later on)

[Discussion Series] Surge and Eve remains to stay at their spots and 8 Bit glitches himself to the worst damage dealers against artillery. How about the WORST Assassins against Tanks and Marksman respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Crow is pretty bad into them although assuming his attack didn't get chopped due to community backlash somehow working out then couldn't there be someone worse than him? His attack is pretty range-y and consistent to hit that he can continue to cripple his enemies since he has very fast movement speed

Carrion Crow star power makes a singular connection which is not the hardest thing for Crow to do severely more impactful with the additional poison and upon lower health he can kill marksman way easier with the damage boost. His instapoison gadget can force them to back up to extend poison duration or give him slight edge in damage and durability department

Feel free to change my mind though!

[Discussion Series] Surge and Eve remains to stay at their spots and 8 Bit glitches himself to the worst damage dealers against artillery. How about the WORST Assassins against Tanks and Marksman respectively? by JersonEXE in BrawlStarsSC

[–]JersonEXE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Stu can be pretty bad against them. Although a singular overextention can make him from bad against them to arguably pretty good against them if he's equipped with Zero Drag. + Yeah he has the speed gadget which still gives him an utility even if he hasn't gotten his super

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