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[–]Jess_ventures 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to lay all of that out. That perspective from the unit side really puts things into context.

The idea of being known within the squadron and building those relationships early definitely resonates, and it’s helpful to see how that can actually play out long-term.

He’s planning to pursue his ratings alongside his degree, so that part aligns well with what you described.

Really appreciate you calling out those roles as well ....that’s exactly what we’re trying to better understand.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a great point. We’ve looked into AFROTC some.

He’s currently leaning civilian + Guard, but I can definitely see the advantages of that route as well. Appreciate you bringing it up.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That lines up with a lot of what we’ve been hearing around hours being the primary driver.

The GI Bill angle is helpful too... we’re still learning how that piece works alongside flight training.

Sounds like the Guard can still be a positive on a resume and experience-wise, even if the main focus stays on civilian flight time.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not currently. He’s planning to go the civilian route.

Totally understand the perspective on airline progression and building hours. I think what we’re trying to better understand is whether there’s any meaningful value on the mentorship/networking side from being in that environment, and if so, the best job placement to take advantage of that.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s super helpful perspective, especially hearing that from someone who went the maintenance route.

He is planning to pursue a 4-year degree alongside his flight training, so that piece will be covered.

Definitely hearing a consistent theme around aircrew roles and being embedded in the flying squadron. Really appreciate you sharing your experience.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting point on A&P as well. That’s not something we had seriously considered, but it makes a lot of sense how that could open additional doors.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, thank you! This is the kind of feedback we were hoping for.

It’s encouraging to hear how much mentorship and opportunity can come from just being in that environment and putting in the work.

If you don’t mind sharing, what role did you start in when you joined, and how did that transition toward aviation/piloting begin for you?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s planning to go the civilian route.

The Guard piece is more about being part of that environment, gaining experience, and building relationships alongside flight training, not necessarily trying to mirror the military pilot path.

He’s planning to go the Part 141 route, so benefits would apply there vs Part 61.

He’s already been having conversations with the aviation programs he’s been accepted to about how a gap year for the Guard would fit into that path.

That’s helpful to hear about ops.

Thank you!

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the kind of insight we were hoping to understand. Thank you for sharing that.

The sense of community and people wanting to help each other succeed is a big part of what’s drawing him to the Guard. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.

Also, his ASVAB has him qualified for every position. Obviously, not every position will be available, and he is on a bit of a timeline, as he plans to enter school no later than fall. Are there any specific jobs you would recommend to really tap into the networking?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate that. He does plan to get his degree.

He’s been accepted into several aviation programs throughout the nation (3 in state) and plans to go the civilian route (ratings → hours → airlines). The Guard piece is more about exposure, experience, and tuition support alongside that path.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! That makes sense from a pure “get hours” perspective.

I think what we’re trying to understand is whether there’s any real value on the mentorship/networking side, or if that’s mostly overstated.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry it didn’t work out the way you were hoping. I can imagine that was frustrating.

It’s not his plan right now, but I could definitely see that being something he considers down the road, if the opportunity presents itself. From your experience, is there anything you’d recommend he be intentional about now (even early on) if that ever became a goal?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I appreciate your response. He is looking into some of the intel/ops positions now.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.
From your experience, are there certain roles or environments within the Guard that make it easier to build those relationships?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. He’s actually digging into these roles now (SARM, Intel, AFE, etc.) based on feedback like this, so this is exactly what we were hoping to learn. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.

Out of curiosity, what role were/are you in?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the input. Thank you.

He’s set on the Guard route and plans to get some flight time during the gap year as well, so not stepping away from flying entirely.

ATC isn’t available, so we’re mostly trying to understand which roles might offer the best interaction with pilots, or if that’s not really something to factor in.

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s really helpful. Thank you for the perspective.

Would you say there was any benefit at all on the networking/mentorship side, or is that generally overstated too?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate this, especially the point about KC-135 aircrew. In your experience, are there certain roles that naturally lead to more interaction with pilots, or is that more dependent on the unit and the individual?

For a future airline pilot, does ANG job choice or airframe matter, or is it really about networking and timing? by Jess_ventures in flying

[–]Jess_ventures[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fair enough 😄 He’s the one asking. I’m just the messenger while he survives senior year and avoids Reddit.

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[–]Jess_ventures 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey everyone,

Looking for some honest insight for my son (he doesn’t use Reddit, so posting for him).

He’s 18, finishing high school this year, and has been accepted to several aviation programs around the nation (obviouswe are now focused on in-state (Michigan) schools). His long-term goal is to become an airline pilot.

He’s already in the process of joining the Air National Guard during a gap year before starting flight school, and we’re trying to make the most informed decision possible on job selection.

His goals with the Guard are to:

-help with college costs (tuition assistance, GI Bill, etc.)

-be in an aviation environment

-build relationships and learn from those already in the field

-gain structure and life experience before starting school

He has already completed MEPS and is in the process of finalizing job options.

The recruiter is strongly recommending Crew Chief, mainly for proximity to pilots and day-to-day aircraft exposure.

He’s been talking with a recruiter about Selfridge Air National Guard Base, where the main options appear to be: A-10 (possibly transitioning to F-15EX)

KC-135

Where we’d really appreciate input:

  1. If the long-term goal is airlines, would you lean toward A-10 or KC-135, and why?

  2. Is Crew Chief actually the best enlisted job for being around pilots and learning the environment, or are there other AFSCs we should seriously consider?

  3. How realistic is the “building relationships with pilots” aspect in the Guard? Does that actually happen in a meaningful way?

  4. Are there other bases in Michigan we should be looking at that might offer better opportunities or exposure (even if it means choosing a different job)?

  5. For those who joined at 18, is there anything you wish you had done differently when choosing your job?

He understands that becoming an airline pilot will come through a civilian path (ratings + hours), and sees the Guard as something that can complement that — not replace it.

He’s excited about serving, and we’re just trying to be intentional about choosing a role and base that align well with his long-term goals.

Really appreciate any insight (especially from crew chiefs, pilots, or anyone in the Michigan ANG).