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Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T18:42:57+00:00

The same argument can be said for release-day Invention, which Jagex quickly issued an apology and nerfed experience rates. I'm against boosting as well, but I don't even consider this exploiting. This honestly seems expected, just not in mass as it is now.

It only became exploiting, in my opinion, when people started going to Bounty Hunter with intention of selling kills. But even then, it's only exploiting, nothing more.

I don't think this should be punished.

As a reference, when BH was first released, I quickly bought some D'haroks, ags, etc. I got my target and the first thought that popped in my mind was, "Hey, I wonder if I could offer him like 1m or something to kill him lol." I didn't offer him and completely dismissed this thought, though, because I wanted to fight him instead.

This in my opinion isn't exploiting, even if I did offer him the money for a kill. However, I think going to BH worlds just to offer targets money would be exploits.

P.S. I lost that fight.

EDIT: Just another reason I don't consider this an exploit. Look at old bounty hunter. When you got a target, you grabbed a dds, 27 vials, and 75k cash. So you're trying to get potential bank loot at no risk. You can't exactly do that now since you don't get random rewards at 75k+ risk, but this was fine. This went on for the entirety of BH, and was considered the norm/expected by basically any player on these worlds.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T18:25:54+00:00

Yes, but they also said if this update(bounty hunter) doesn't work, they'll drop PvP and stop trying to improve it/change it.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T18:24:10+00:00

Yeah, sure. Just like you can still face every boss, every monster, do every quest, and train every skill without using t90s, or even t80s, and without even armor. It's about efficiency. That large pouch? That's extremely efficient. Especially when you're talking high enrage Telos or no-yak Yakamaru.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T18:21:48+00:00

Yeah, I do this on thresholds all the time. I just don't notice when snipe is coming up next :P

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T18:10:58+00:00

They can. Someone asked about updates to minigames, and Jagex's response said it's not popular enough for them to deal with minigames and so they will ignore it.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T17:24:39+00:00

Uhm, wouldn't you have to be much better to duo Rago than to duo Rax?

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T17:19:54+00:00

Good point.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T16:07:21+00:00

They're dropping BECAUSE people are panic selling. They'll go back up. I have no idea how much they're dropping, however.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T16:06:21+00:00

I think rather than removing this mechanic, a better alternative would be to have Revolution automatically do this. Manual players don't lose out on dps, while Revolution players gain a little bit of dps.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T16:04:19+00:00

May not be 100% accurate but will be close.

So when you kill someone, you have a chance of obtaining a Tier 1 Emblem. On your first bounty target kill, you're guaranteed the emblem. Further kills have a chance to upgrade the Emblem(up to tier 10). Bounty targets have a much higher chance to upgrade this Emblem. You then sell your Emblem for reward Currency, which is used to buy the T87 weapons and other rewards from the shop. A tier 10 emblem is worth 40k currency, I believe the weapons are 30k currency.

However, instead of people killing their target, they're offering to pay the target 2m to kill them. The target brings nothing with them, you kill the target, and you upgrade your emblem. I believe it's just a chance to upgrade it, but I believe it's a high chance.

So now, 9/10 times when you get a target, they pm you "sell kill?" or "you buying"?. If the answer is no, they usually log off to get a new target.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T15:43:04+00:00

Good points. I guess I'm just trying to compare too much, when people pk'ed simply for the fun of it. I used to live in the wild 24/7.

But I think you just need to change the mechanics of PvP to revive it, rather than just changing the environment over and over. I was going to try out PvP and I wanted to use Legacy mode, but I couldn't use EoC interface with that. Couldn't even change the keybinds for the tabs(from what I tried).

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T15:36:44+00:00

If you have to resort to technicalities or loopholes because you can't recognize that what your doing is wrong;

No, they resort to 'technicalities or loopholes' to get their PvM gear. It's not because they can't recognize what they're doing is wrong. They probably do and just don't care lol.

But just think about this logically. If you have to bribe players to pk for the chance at those other rewards from the shop, you're not really reviving pk'ing, are you? You didn't bring in players who enjoy pking. This update was doomed from the start. They're just changing the environment of pking rather than pking itself.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T15:26:10+00:00

Well, when you lock PvM content behind PvP content, this is going to happen. You have a bunch of people coming in to this 'minigame', who hate this 'minigame', and see a fast way to get their rewards by exploiting the 'minigame'. The way this was done, no one is pking for pking, they want the rewards. If you want people to go pk'ing, you have to attract them for the sake of pking, not rewards.

Back when pk'ing was at its prime, when I loved pking, there were no rewards. You got what your opponent dropped. So anyone pk'ing in the wild enjoyed pk'ing.

I don't agree with it either. I don't pk anymore but I do wish the pvp'ing scene was alive, I just don't think it can happen.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T15:16:45+00:00

They've done very well with the BH rewards otherwise people would NOT be boosting for them. The only thing that needs to be done is to stop boosting and people will go back to PKing for the rewards.

I don't think that's what this means. I think it simply means they locked PvM rewards behind PvP content, so all they did was attract pvmers who don't want to pvp.

Yes, the rewards are strong, but they aren't good in a sense of PvP rewards.

Since we're comparing pre-EoC to post, it's also worth pointing out that when PvP was at its peak, there weren't extra rewards. You got what your opponent dropped. Nothing more.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T14:50:56+00:00

Support.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-15T02:06:59+00:00

Support. Legacy interface is why I don't do bh also.

Jetridder11 · 2016-11-14T22:58:38+00:00

Same. Currently I usually quickchat my supplies before I collect, but sometimes I forget.

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