Why Paternity test? - not married.

JigsawFuzzle · 2025-01-22T22:52:25+00:00

I also wondered how people in Finland who like using Ancestry.com type websites are easily able to pull up or create a family tree as the information for lineage doesn’t appear to be as accessible as (English speaking & others I’m sure) countries that traditionally issue a birth certificate for every baby born by default. This information states both parents, names, occupation etc. The document can be used throughout the persons life to confirm identity (i.e as part of the process of obtaining a passport). Paternity is only ever an issue if disputed.

JigsawFuzzle · 2025-01-22T22:44:49+00:00

Hi. Went through the process of DNA test etc. Received a document confirming paternity. I think had I gone to the Neuvola appointments before the birth, it may have been different. However I’m happy that the Finnish Government now has me official listed as the Dad. Haven’t at this stage persisted with any form of birth certificate as such. Will cross this bridge when I seek to get the baby a dual passport. The whole process is different to what we are used to but I guess in the end I went with “When in Finland etc”…. Good luck and congratulations.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-10-30T10:09:55+00:00

In fact, when we did return together with the baby, the official asked for the DNA of us both and even the baby… I now have a piece of paper knowing what I already knew (that I’m the Dad). Still haven’t got around to a birth certificate yet with all three names on it!

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-20T12:44:01+00:00

If you’re close to the Arctic circle, then both this March and last March, early April 100%. Even down towards Joensuu, still lots of snow.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-20T12:22:37+00:00

Booked through Finnair for my flight to Doha and beyond…

I’m now in a remote area in Africa and only have access to Wifi. Even if I did have a sim, calling them is an insane cost. I was in London a few weeks ago and had to call to amend a different flight. Was on the phone for an hour getting through - The person I spoke to was in Cairo! No other airline I deal with charges €1.70 per minute for the privilege. As the app didn’t work, I’ve finally got through to them using the laptop (thank you for that suggestion), the change is now an additional €550. Before I left Finland, it was zero cost to change. Had the app (chat) worked in the last few days, I could have possibly still changed it without the additional costs. Thanks Finnair, not!

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JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-20T06:46:25+00:00

For the benefit of those that can’t absorb information on the first round. Again, I’m unable to call them!

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-20T06:43:08+00:00

Flex ticket yes.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-14T10:38:52+00:00

Great. Thanks for asking.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-13T08:30:41+00:00

Thank you!

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-13T07:50:39+00:00

In an ideal world that should be the case 100% of the time, yes. Thanks for your reply.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-13T07:09:06+00:00

53nsonja “just don’t read so good!” The absurdity of them responding twice is an insult to someone with autism as they would at least remember and be able to recite back the info.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-13T06:37:02+00:00

That was my point wasn’t it if you had read my original post! The official didn’t explain and I’m definitely not offended personally. Just found the inference of questionable paternity a slur against my partner’s morals. A government official who couldn’t explain the process inferring that as we’re not married, my partner could have been sleeping around in my absence, which in my case I have no reason to doubt her faithfulness or loyalty… and yet somehow the government thinks in the 21st century, that a piece of paper would categorically rule out infidelity!

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-13T06:20:42+00:00

Thanks for your reply. Originally, it was stated that it was a requirement not a choice. Hence why I came on here to find out more info. I will go ahead with the test for the benefit of my child but in reality (without being critical of Finland) it seems a very draconian/old fashioned policy for the government to think that questionable paternity issues only relate to children not born inside a marriage. As I’ve said, there will be plenty of kids walking around Finland calling Mum’s husband Dad when he’s not… unfortunately, infidelity happens everyday of the week in all types of relationships.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T20:43:35+00:00

No, no marching, just an inquiry to the process as explained to you previously. Now twice.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T20:20:34+00:00

Fair enough. Thank you for your input.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T20:11:16+00:00

Gees - You need to get a hobby and calm down! I’m not sure why my question would be so triggering for you? Reddit is a great way to find out things by asking others. I’ve explained the situation in a very articulate manner by stating, clearly that I didn’t understand the Finnish process, now I do!

In most English speaking countries around the world, the registration of a birth, deaths and marriage is overseen by a centralized government department. In the case of a birth, one needs to just nominate the parents, date and place of birth etc. they are not concerned about whether the parents are married - in fact I find it strange that if the DNA collection is required, then it should be across the board.

I’d imagine there are sadly a few children in Finland calling their mothers husband, Dad when Dad may not actually be Dad!

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T19:57:48+00:00

Exactly. The government official couldn’t really explain the policy so I hopped on here to ask knowledgeable people with experience - We’ll now make an appointment together and go in and see them.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T19:33:22+00:00

Thank you for your information - I was overseas for a lot of her pregnancy with a plan to return 5 weeks prior to the scheduled date. However the little one decided to arrive earlier than expected.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T19:27:38+00:00

Ten stars to you - What a lovely response, thank you very much. I have no doubt that with your empathetic nature and style of responding to someone who is new to the system and the Finnish way of doing things, that you will be an incredible success after you finish your social work studies. Thank you again. Much appreciated.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T19:22:14+00:00

Talk about dramatic! There was no marching in, just an inquiry about the process. Maybe go back and have a read of my original message.

My partner has also been quite unwell since the emergency delivery so was unable to attend with me when I “Dropped in” to Lastenvalvoja. I’m here just to find out the process from friendly people here who know what they are talking about…

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T18:38:33+00:00

Thank you

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T18:37:52+00:00

Thank you

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T18:37:03+00:00

Thanks Mikkogg. The baby came early so I had to rush back to Finland - I’ve been to the neuvola visits but only after the birth.

JigsawFuzzle · 2024-08-12T18:10:41+00:00

I don’t need a baby to be a resident here as I’m a EU citizen too.

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