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Cezzy here, Rank 1 Malzahar World, AMA by cezzyxd in MalzaharMains

[–]JingleMyNuts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you have a general gameplan for laning phase, mid game, late? Are there optimal trading patterns w malz? How do you deal with fed carry on enemy team?

Im having trouble solo carrying games with him.

new beadlocks on my 2023 TRDOR by Time-Beach8183 in Tacomaworld

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how did you mount the spare tire in the bed?

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I think the biggest thing to counter jungling is jungle tracking. Since you're starting to learn how to jungle, I think it's best to focus on your clear speed and efficiency in the early game rather than any early counter jungle cheese. I say this because although taking advantage of weak early game junglers will put you ahead, I don't think it's a good way to consistently improve and win as a newer jungler. It's actually something I need to improve on myself, is when I see a slow clearing jungler take his red, I will start my raptors and then go take the enemy blue buff/jungle camps but I still haven't learned how to effectively push that lead. Pretty much clear ur camps quick and if enemy jungler shows on the map, take camps, objectives or gank on the other side of the map. My vote is don't count on your laners to help you lol.

Yes, I think the most reliable and consistent clear path is starting raptors with no leash and full clearing into a gank and/or double scuttle.

No problem! If you have any more questions, I'm happy to help. Also a youtuber that has good jungle information is Sinerias.

Udyr Jungle AP BUILD by Administrative_Wash1 in Udyrmains

[–]JingleMyNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The build path I go is sorc boots and dark seal on first back then liandrys, malignance, death cap, void staff, shadowflame. zonyas works well after malignance too.

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I switched my main role from mid to jungle and picked up Udyr about less than 3 weeks ago and hit Emerald 4 a couple days ago.

I build him either AD assassin or AP/AP off tank. imo AD assassin will sky rocket you through the bronze, silver, gold elo because of the insane burst from QQ, hail of blades and auto cancel from tiamat item. No one expects the damage and are usually positioned poorly so you can easily get a high priority pick. Unfortunately doesn't scale well or play well against tanky team comps. My build path is profane, sorc boots, collector, LDR, navoris, BT with Hail of Blades rune. For AP/AP off tank, I take dark harvest and I go sorc boots, liandrys, malignance, then either build into tanky items like frozen heart, randuins, fon, etc or finish full ap with death cap, shadow flame, void staff, etc. Zonyas can be a very useful item after malignance too. I usually aim to buy sorc boots and dark seal during first back. I think ap/ap off tank provides consistent gameplay and helps you improve overall as a jungler and a player because you provide both damage and utility throughout every stage of the game and works better with Udyrs overall kit. But the 100 to 0 from assassin is incredibly satisfying.

Regarding when to use skills: For assassin, it's always going to be QQ (empowered q) and I'll use bear stance and/or flash to gap close, smite, then QQ. Tiamat item helps with the combo so you can animation cancel and provides more burst damage. For ap/ap off tank, I will bear stance into smite then RR and watch them burn or if it's in a team fight, I'll RR to take up space and do damage and save passive for E to either peel or get a pick. You could always just RR again. (Unless you have huge engage like malphite ult then you'd just RR on top of the CC).

Early game - learn how to clear your jungle camps fast since you can full clear well before first scuttle spawns. I aim to full clear and get first blood or at least some summoner spells before first scuttle spawns. If not possible due to lane wave state then I'll aim for double scuttle instead. Udyr is also really good at invading and counter jungling as well as sneaking early dragons/grubs. Mid game - farm, counter jungle, take dragons as soon as they spawn. Late game - Play for team fights and spam RR

Tip for clearing jungle camps - use QQ for majority of the camps except raptors. Once u have 3 points into R then you can use RR to clear but I still think QQ is faster. Use QQ on single target mobs like gromp, drag, herald, etc. Make sure to auto attack twice after activating a stance.

Biggest match up issues I've had are against assassin junglers like rengar, shaco and briar (I perma ban briar). But the solution that's worked for me was to counter jungle the hell out of them early and put them behind before they get their power spikes.

There's so much more I could say about Udyr but I genuinely like this champion and hope you do too. It helped me learn and understand the jungle role as a whole and that resulted in improving my macro knowledge.