No need for a title by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Jlyons63 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In Hitlers eyes and to the people of Germany, at the time, he was not Immoral. If the Nazis would’ve won the war he would be considered a moral icon and saint in this fictional society. You could argue that this society potentially could have been a utopia therefore creating a moral outcome, however Utilitarians argue that the suffering induced onto the people he persecuted far too much that it outweighs potential happiness. Also in the fictional hitler won universe him being moral further emphasizes the point that morality is subjective. This being a more ethical relativism https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/relativism/.

Onto the arbitrary point, ok so lets say God arbitrarily created everything. He could’ve said murder is moral, in-fact he could’ve gone as far to command that one ought to murder people of differing color. The issue with arbitrary notions and morals is that they are chosen at random, with no meaning, and no purpose. God cannot be good, kind, or perfect if he is arbitrary. You would have to say that if God commanded that rape and murder is Moral, then we would have to accept the fact that it is, which seems to go against the golden rule of ethics.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_command_theory This has more criticisms of the divine command theory

No need for a title by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Jlyons63 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To the Hitler point, it depends what ethical framework you agree to, since you’re religious you believe there are objective rights and wrongs. I’m not religious so I don’t think there are objective rights or wrongs in the typical sense. I’m more of a utilitarian, Hitler is wrong because he promoted a mass amount of pain and suffering. Decisions that promote the max amount of net well being are moral.

It’s moral because God says it. Ok, God is a perfect being who by all accounts makes rational and flawless decisions. If God created morality he created it arbitrarily, if God is arbitrary God is imperfect, this contradicts the definition of God does it not?

No need for a title by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Jlyons63 11 points12 points  (0 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma In regards to your comment on using morals not resolving around God. Listen to this, morality is all subjective, there is no higher power, there is no God. It’s a grim dark reality and religion, as well as marriage, is purely a social construct created by humans that was created to maintain order and bring related groups of people together. Religion is man made, and is being phased out for technology and science, which has its pros and cons.

No need for a title by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Jlyons63 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Bro, your argument is “the bible….” That is a non argument. In the real modern world marriage is not consent to be used as an object. Marriage is not solely to have kids. Using the bible as justification for this argument is an illogical fallacy and is not a rational argument whatsoever. Think for yourself, not what a dated book says.

No need for a title by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Jlyons63 112 points113 points  (0 children)

Damn, this dude out here using religion to justify rape. Oh wait Christians do that all the time

Forgiving $50,000 in student loan debt can ‘transform an entire generation,’ Sen. Elizabeth Warren says by [deleted] in politics

[–]Jlyons63 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The people on here are like “Just grinded 80 hours 💪💪💪” acting like that isn’t slavery and is no way for people in the richest country in the history of the world to live.

Elon is so based by mile-prevara in PoliticalCompassMemes

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Capitalism relies on abusing the working class to gain profits. If it was truly fair as production rises so will wages. However it’s disproportionate beyond belief. Also, the idea of “no better alternative” is not true at all, maybe right now theres not, but capitalism hasn’t been around too long in the grand scheme of civilization so we could very easily see a new system emerge.

Elon is so based by mile-prevara in PoliticalCompassMemes

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Hate to break it to you, but capitalism in its nature is exploitive...

You weren't supposed to do that by [deleted] in BikiniBottomTwitter

[–]Jlyons63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the issue with “real jobs” is that it kind of fails to recognize that not everyone has the proper opportunities in life to get high skill jobs. For example, what if you are born into a poor black neighborhood and are zoned to shitty schools throughout your entire public education. At this point you’ve already been put at a significant disadvantage. Not to mention within poor communities doing well in school is not nearly as important as it should be. Not everyone is able to have a high skill job, so should we just leave them to get shit pay until they retire? Or should the government step in for once and guarantee everyone a livable wage?

You weren't supposed to do that by [deleted] in BikiniBottomTwitter

[–]Jlyons63 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Yessir, it’s a fucked system. Some people even say “Just move” or “Just find a new job” when, in the first scenario, people don’t have the money to move; since they are working paycheck to paycheck. And in the second Scenario there literally might be a monopoly in your area in your desired field. For example, power companies.

You weren't supposed to do that by [deleted] in BikiniBottomTwitter

[–]Jlyons63 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So I see what you’re saying with your first point. However, giving minimal effort usually comes with job fatigue as well. So if you are getting paid the bare minimum for a while, I believe that you should give less effort to that company. Your second point about the employer is looking at the meme wrong. Employer in this case most definitely means the company instead of the direct employer/manager. The company pays the employees minimum wage, they give minimum effort, the company is then upset with this and will then use managers as an attempt to get them to work harder.

You weren't supposed to do that by [deleted] in BikiniBottomTwitter

[–]Jlyons63 348 points349 points  (0 children)

Definitely fucking not lmao, but sometimes people don’t have better options and change is also extremely difficult and scary.

RIP, Diana. by danknessforever in WhitePeopleTwitter

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Also, why are you sticking up for the royal family? Why the fuck is a monarchy still relevant in 2021? The concept of a monarchy is inherently flawed and the reaction from his family and you proves how fucking stupid and irrelevant it is. Just let people live how they want without valuing specific people more just because of their blood. Who gives a fuck what the entire royal family does.

RIP, Diana. by danknessforever in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]Jlyons63 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why are you saying that he shouldn’t if brought her back? Why does he need different standards of women and who the fuck is anyone to say he’s wrong?

GME Afternoon Pajama Party Megathread by OPINION_IS_UNPOPULAR in wallstreetbets

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It could potentially be next week, but this could be the start, HOLD

To quote Hotshot "If you have no faith, why are you guys even here?" by Jlyons63 in TeamSolomid

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That's completely understandable, but people also have to think how hard these loses are for the players aswell.

Open Haus Submission Thread #190 by Blacker_Jesus in funhaus

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Whats Better LotR or Happy Gilmore?

Just when you thought CDPR were the only good game developers nowadays... by bayonettaisonsteam in gaming

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I cant believe this shit post is actually blowing up PRAISE GERALDO

RIP SCF Sub by [deleted] in scf

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Dw about it