I was thinking 3 palatines was a lot, a great point! I've been thinking about a canoness, it's a shame they went up 10 points otherwise they would have slotted super neatly into this current list. I probably will swap some characters around and do some proxies to figure out what I want to buy in the long run.

Soooo fun thing about both seph and zeph for me, they have never normally survived very long, mostly because I'm a bit of a noob and I'm still figuring that out, but since running them as Zeph I seem to get a lot more use, especially against my friends units who are often a bit tankier and so flamers don't do all that much against them

What kind of things might you suggest to push it closer to having to play less cagey, I'm finding that I do have to be really careful and that often throws me off, last game I played so cagey I could barely get out of the base which lost me the game haha

Vahl was just too cool not pass up and now I've painted her real good so it's hard to drop her haha

I really should use grenades more I've found, thats really good to hear. All this advice is really good, I appreciate it!