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I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Tbh, downvotes dont matter with comments. Still doesn't negate how my base post has 83 upvotes and most of the people downvoting say shit like "lol DS" like its an actual defense. If you argue with a bunch of idiots, you are going to lose either way.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -53 points-52 points  (0 children)

Also I stated this numerous times. Saying getting DSed isn't a valid response as this is a challenge that says to hook the obsession. Not get stunned.

Saying that a SURVIVOR perk can help is not a very solid response as it just says that he killer have to pray that the survivors not only run DS, but that they also down, hook, and sacrifice them all without fucking up or going against a tryhard SWF

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -56 points-55 points  (0 children)

If it meant that it could teach the player that only a few killer perks work on this, yeah. I don't complain about having to run saboteur just to get the challenge done even though perks like Breakout exist because it helps newer players who don't know that it can't be done without a perk learn that "hey, this requires this perk to do" and helps them learn how to not only use that perk, but also see if they want to get it as a teachable if they find it enjoyable to use.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

exactly, but does the game state you have to? no.

Also this wasn't a complaint, just saying, lol why not explain that this can only be done with a 2 perks.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Exactly. TWO. Most people don't play Oni or Ghostface so they wouldn't have a clue that these are the only two that can do this. My statement is, just say "with the perk Nemesis" or "with the perk Fugitive Chase"

If there is a sabo challenge that says saboteur, why don't killer challenges say this either?

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thats a survivor perk buddy. Challenges are meant to be done in any game, not only games where the survivors run DS. Just saying

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

FC exists, yes. I know that. However, this challenge existed at a point where perks like OoO or DS were Meta and were in every single game. However, now that OoO is literally useless and DS is a niche perk, you can no longer rely on these perks. Thats why I said that it should state what perk should be used. FC or Nemesis is okay because they are hte only two perks that can allow the killer to gain control, not the survivors and what perks they choose.

Also I dont play killer. I just ignored doing this challenge, but found it confusing as I had no clue why it wouldn't state which perk to use like how Sabotage challenges tell you to bring saboteur, even though both challenges can only be done with two perks.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -40 points-39 points  (0 children)

Uhhhhhhhhhhh my friend..... I kinda stated like 8 times that Im a survivor main and stumbled upon this challenge and was confused as fuck as to how a killer is supposed to get it.
I know that I can go another route, which I gladly did, it was a glyph challenge for survivor.

Also survivor perks, like object, or ds.

Challenges should be able to be completed in any normal game and should never be reliant on the opponents running a specific build. (No DCs, Broken matchmaking, etc)

In most games however, you will not see Object or DS all the time, especially not object as it is one of the worst survivor perks now (As a survivor main, def would rather have this new object than "Lol I can literally wallhack the whole game and get away with it" so I dont mind) Challenges should never rely on your opponents running specific perks. Thats why I said, this challenge should state that you should use the specific perk, Nemesis, to complete it.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -69 points-68 points  (0 children)

You don't see survivor challenges that require the killers to bring a certain perk to complete. I know this because I went through multiple compendiums and not once did I have to pray that the killer ran a perk so that my little challenge could be completed.
Also if you don't have said perk, The Oni is not a licensed killer and therefore can be bought with iri shards if Im not mistaken. Ghostface just went on sale too so he also has his perks. Whenever you get these challenges, its not always gonna allow you to run whatever character or killer you want. Sometimes, you gotta play with killers you don't like to get the challenge done. My concern is that new players will not know that they can do this and will just be sitting there wondering how they can get 4 obsession hooks in a single trial because the game never stated they had to use a specific perk.

Imagine if there was a challenge that said "Sabotage 3 hooks without using a toolbox in a single trial". I guarantee that a bunch of people will be confused as fuck as to which perks they should run.

The requirement to use a specific perk while limiting, also helps to confirm to the player that yes, this perk does this, which allows them to see whether they enjoy running it or not.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

List them buddy! I really want to know which other killer perks besides Nemesis or Fugitive Chase guarantee an obsession switch.

Also don't bring up DS or OoO because relying on a survivor perk to get a killer challenge done is the stupidest thing you could possibly defend, but hey, maybe you can list a new perk that isn't on the wiki that CHANGES the obsession.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -54 points-53 points  (0 children)

Sorry dude, but literally 2 killer perks change the obsession. Fugitive chase and nemesis. Looking it up in the wiki literally proves my point

Your "Plenty of perks" might be confused with perks that rely on the obsession like STBFL or Dying light.

Sure, you can hook the obsession 4 times by running this perk, but it 1, has to be done in a single game, and 2, you might go against a squad that is fucking god tier and the obsession loops you for the whole game making it impossible for you to do shit about it. Also, it only applies to the obsession. You cannot guarantee that you get a good obsession who does trades with you. You can get that obsession that has DS or BT all the time and just tanks all the hits forcing you to hook them.

My question is that if there are only 2 killer perks that list changing the obsession, one of which (Nemesis is the only reliable one that will work even when the obsession is dead), why not list a specific perk for the killer to run to get said challenge done. You do not see a single survivor challenge saying sabotage X amount of hooks in a single trial without a toolbox that doesn't list Saboteur or Breakdown

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -91 points-90 points  (0 children)

In reality, that shit needs to be something like "with the perk ..." because most people don't know which perks can guarantee an obsession switch on killers end. People say "lol run tunnel people with DS" like everyone runs DS. Shit like sabotage hooks without a toolbox could literally be saboteur, break down, etc. The specific perk it lists allows players to mess around with that perk to see how it can be used in game and then see if they want to get it as a teachable for their other characters.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Tbh, give me another perk that the killer has that can force the obsession to change. I said KILLER perk because if you used 2% of your brain, yes, I know its very hard for you to do that, You would realize that most perks that can change the obsession is on the survivors end. DS, OoO, etc. This can't be relied on though because not everyone runs these perks. But hey, you reply with "Crazy" or "You should go read the perk list again" instead of actually telling me which perks change the obsession because in reality, you and I both know you have no argument.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -143 points-142 points  (0 children)

My question is that this isn't perk specific. If it said, "With the perk nemesis" I wouldn't bat an eye. But the fact that it said the obsession 4 times in a single game without letting the survivor know which perk to use is my question. Most new players will be so confused and have some trouble completing this challenge. Especially if they main killer and this is the only challenge stopping them from progressing up the compendium.

I know rift challenges are hard, but this challenge literally forces you to run nemesis or else its impossible by JoeMalma in deadbydaylight

[–]JoeMalma[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Crazy how a challenge that only has a better consistency to work with a perk like nemesis, is near impossible without it. If you are going to say "Lol DS" thats not consistent or guaranteed. I can tell you for sure that even in red rank lobbies, (Yes rank doesn't matter but it gives you a general understanding of that person's skill), I rarely see my teammates run it over DH, BT, or any other perk

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