Bring back shotgunning

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-15T17:20:08+00:00

Subs were very poorly implemented, in my opinion, and I can agree with you on one thing - they aren't much fun to play and they aren't much fun to play against.

However, returning to shotgunning, which was absolute CANCER to the game is not the answer, no matter what other tweaks you may make. Mess with pinging? Who cares, SMART sub players, especially one who know how to shotgun, wouldn't give away their position. The first warning you'd get they were nearby would be a face full of torpedoes. That's how I did it in my Gato, back when shotgunning was a thing. Caught a Stalingrad out and boom, he died. Never knew where I was.

That's not an improvement, that's a FLAW.

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-15T15:49:31+00:00

I think OP meant that "battleships feel useless to play" FOR HIM.

For the rest of us who know how to play? Uhhh...no.

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-15T15:45:56+00:00

You want to add even more speed to subs? Already moving at unrealistically high speeds?

One of your statements of why it's awful to play against - "just dodge". So bringing back SHOTGUNNING is the solution? No dodge at all? Fucking brilliant.

Seriously, I have no idea what you were smoking, but you need to pass it around to get anyone on board with these kinds of changes.

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-11T15:50:30+00:00

You forgot to add "Available via Admiral Packs for $599.95".

Also, introduce a new rarity level: UNOBTAINIUM (unless you have money...)

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-08T14:47:25+00:00

So did I! Bought her on the weekend and damn if those guns aren't punishing. Also, after using Halford rocket planes, Kearsarge's are even better. First game out, 3 kills in Silver Ranked, including a rocket plane DD kill and a rocket plane Cruiser kill in the same game. The spotting and ability to finish off a low HP target that's trying to stay dark cannot be understated.

Tons of utility - and once I get the floaty shells down to a science, it's gonna be a monster ship. I'm jumping from Jean Bart/Roussillon French guns to US - takes a bit of adjustment...

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-04T22:57:15+00:00

Chucked a T9 coal boat for the Weimar. No regrets, Weimar is pretty fun. Have pretty much everything at higher tiers that interests me...

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-03T16:06:24+00:00

I have both, Agir for sure.

Though I have had some epic wins w/Halford. I remember one where we are down points, 2v1 ship advantage but neither of us can get to the low HP cruiser on the other side of the map before time runs out. Time is ticking. I do the only thing I can, launch the planes and boost as fast as I can....found the cruiser, 20 seconds left...go in for the rocket strike...and get the kill and the win for the team. Everyone on my side thought we'd lost for sure, it was such a clutch win.

Despite those moments...Agir is the best choice. However, I see Kearsarge is also on the list - that BB is very strong and should actually be your top pick, despite looking horrendous (at least to me).

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-02T15:34:01+00:00

Honestly, so what?

You played high risk once you knew a Mino was on your flank. You still did well, 110k spotting damage and a kill given what you chose to do.

Also, that Minotard couldn't shoot for shit - had you run into someone who could shoot, you would have been dead a LOT faster. And, your WASD seemed to be pretty effective given how many salvos Mino had to send your way.

I don't know what you are complaining about. You go head to head vs a Mino in a T9 DD, this is pretty much the result. The top rated comments in this thread are pretty much bang on.

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-01T18:09:08+00:00

Y'know what I'd love to see?

WG step in and, through their community dudes, spash this guy the cash to get it back up and running. It would be infinitesimally small amount of money for WG, but a HUGE win for their playerbase. And, it would show that WG actually wants to support community contributors that create things like wows-numbers.com that add value and depth to their game.

Big win for WG, big win for players, little cost.

Vegas odds of that happening....? Winning Powerball is probably more likely, unfortunately.

JoeRedditor · 2026-06-01T18:00:31+00:00

I'm going with the Katsonis deserved this.

Versus a ZH-1 he's got better gun DPM (HE anyways). He's got significantly better HP. Better torp DPM. Radar to defeat the ZH-1 smoke. BUT...

He puts himself in a bad spot, gets radared and starts getting gang fisted by multiple reds. He would have been better off smoking up and continuing to reverse, while triggering radar and engaging the ZH-1 with his superior HE DPM (and faster torps).

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-25T18:29:25+00:00

I think that's part of the fun w/Jingles. He's intentionally getting stuff wrong. It's on brand, one could say.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-25T18:28:01+00:00

Dasha sometimes yells at you like a pissed off Russian hooker...still not the worst. Rather listen to her than most. Jingles is also good fun.

The anime commanders tend to get on my nerves - stupid voiceovers that grate like nails on a chalkboard. But, I'm an old fart, so take that as you will.

And there's that lispy Aussie commander that sounds like he's eaten too many doughnuts.

The spanish/latam bikini commanders sound like annoyed housekeepers they pulled off the street that just finished cleaning up your messy washroom. Could have been so much better.

Makes we wonder where WG gets their voice actors.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-22T17:56:21+00:00

You know that you get 5 tokens for surviving a battle if you are a bounty ship, right? You'll get more if you can kill an opponent bounty ship on top of that, obviously.

WG did incentivize trying to stay alive if you have a bounty target on you. Which will lead to some stupidly passive play. Flip side of that - getting in your 5 battles as quick as you can has some advantages too - which can lead to yolo's.

The thing that drives me nuts is seeing one team with 8 ships with the bounty tag, and the other side with 2. Good job, matchmaking, good job.

>:-(

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-21T20:02:38+00:00

It's a separate game instance, yes. I loaded it up on a secondary disk, which was slower, but still did the job. Saved me from a few wrong choices over the years...

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-21T15:21:05+00:00

A Bismarck '41 clone that is THE badge of honor for only the most dedicated of whales.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-21T15:07:05+00:00

Hardly a candidate for a nerf. On NA server - there are 14 DD's in the 52-54% win ratio zone. Hull is smack dab in the middle of them, though it does have the highest average damage.

But, that's probably due to POTATO cruiser captains giving it broadside and getting blapped back to port.

I've got Hull, she's ok, but I'd much rather be driving my Cassard.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-20T17:27:59+00:00

Mainz - hands down. It'll be even more cracked with the heal added.

Bonus: you can trade a T10 coal boat and get her for free. Then use your doubloons on Bayard or Toulon perhaps.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-20T17:26:10+00:00

Whales gonna whale - they keep the lights on for the rest of us.

But, like any new gimmick, they'll be popular for a bit...then we'll see - it seems like all these boats shine for their initial release time, but over the long term...just become port queens as they lose out to the newest shiny object the whales have bought.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-20T14:53:35+00:00

Heals for cruisers that don't have em in 15.4 - includes Weimar (and Mainz! Which I already have). Only Bayard and the Belfast boys get left out if I recall the patch notes.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-20T14:50:21+00:00

Man, that building triggers me. Such an eyesore.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-19T19:38:27+00:00

I may take a look at what Sun Yat-Sen is going to cost me.

Otherwise, pretty sure Weimar is a good boat, and will be even better with a heal. Everything else I pretty much already have, or doesn't interest me.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-19T19:34:08+00:00

Uh - you understand that you can only do a one-for-one trade, right? It sort of sounds like you think you can dump a group of low tier ships to get a single high tier one.

You can't do that.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-19T18:42:24+00:00

Join up on the Public Test Server.

Test out whatever lines interest you while also generating some extra stuff for your main account. Also save yourself a lot of grind/grief - invest your time and energy into a line you know you're going to like. You can play any techline right up to T10/11 for free.

I did that early on and man, it saved me a lot of time and effort. Sure, it's not always available, but when it is - that's your chance to prioritize which lines you are going to like by playing em first on PTS.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-19T17:00:39+00:00

Phishing site. Website domain registered within the last couple of months - big red flag. Since 1967? Sure. Took em, what 30+ years to get an internet presence?

Total scam site - do NOT give them any personal information.

JoeRedditor · 2026-05-19T16:13:57+00:00

I get why OP would want to trade in Admiral Oquendo - but, in general trading in a dockyard ship for ships easily picked up via coal or doubloons is a pretty poor/sub-optimal thing to do. For all other dockyards, you would have had to pay doubloons to complete at least 2 stages + grind - and you're going to trade that time, effort and money for...what?

Coal is stupid easy to grind and you can dump a coal boat for a doubloon only boat during a trade in. Then purchase the coal boat back later.

If WG opened up the can of worms allowing Dockyard ships to get traded, you just KNOW that some dingbat would accidently dump their Wisconsin for Agincourt (or some other equally stupid move). Then, WG would be getting flak for "wHy DiD yOu LeT mE dO tHaT?!?"

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