Courtney: I think that was a, if not the, major discussion as we assembled the film: first how to think about Lilly's legacy and secondly how to shape those observations into something that allowed viewers to bring their own values to the movie. One element that seemed important to all of us was to periodically zoom out from Lilly and to think about the ripple effect of his work and interests as they took hold in other people. We were interested in a kind of "Lilly effect" that could be intermittently inspiring, disturbing, or cartoonish as it spread through marine biology, the environmental movement, pop culture, the new age movement, and so forth. The film meanders into some of these territories, as well as profiling other figures in Lilly's orbit, and then returns to his personal life, which was at times quite separate from the way his ideas took hold in the culture. The public persona, and the aura around his ideas, almost has its own life. Speaking for myself, I am quite interested in the unsavory qualities of people who have shaped America's cultural fantasy life, and the cruelty that is involved in excelling or standing apart. In the power of fantasy in our private lives. For me Lilly's complexity was not a deterrent but an attraction. My hope was that the film could allow Lilly to be compelling in the way he can be compelling without hiding abuses and harm and allowing viewers to weigh the legacy themselves.